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/r/hockey NHL Power Rankings 2017: Week 9

Here are the individual responses that were submitted by Tuesday morning. If your team is missing a write-up and you would like to provide one, leave it in the comments and I'll try to update it when I can.
Here is a CSV of the data.
screenshot of the below table
SUPER COOL visualization of the data - click on Rankings over Time, and then click on a team on the right, to see how they've done over the past two seasons (as judged by /hockey). This was entirely done by Lang14, he is a champ. Here is his comment, show him some love: https://www.reddit.com/hockey/comments/5eajsj/rhockey_nhl_power_rankings_2017_week_6/dab8850/?context=3
The process: Over the weekend, I send out a survey to one representative from each team who has previously volunteered. They rank the teams however they feel is best and send in a short write-up for the last week or so. I take all the surveys I receive and average out the responses to give the teams the final ranking you see below. I will start contacting the backups on Monday evening to try for completeness. It's not a perfect science.
Big thanks to the people who take the time to do the rankings and write-ups!
Ranking (1st Place Votes) Team Record Last10 Comments
1 (4) Blue Jackets 17-5-4 7-1-2 If the Blue Jackets played just as many games as the rest of the league, they'd definitely be the top of the Metro by now. There's just not much more to report on how well the team is performing, and the advanced stats show that the progress is sustainable to keep them going deep into the season. Best part? After this week's road trip into Alberta and BC, they're done traveling far west for the year and can focus the attention on keeping the homestand alive and sustaining their strong home ice advantage and perfect division record. Bet on December 22 and 23 being a strong, strong test for this team.
2 (9) Canadiens ↑2 19-6-4 5-3-2 The Montreal Canadiens went 3-0-1 on the week and finished with a bang. The Habs dominated the Avalanche in a 10-1 Habs victory, scoring 10 goals for the first time in a game in over 20 years. Our captain found his scoring touch playing beside our very talented playmaking Russian, Alexander Radulov, and the two have combined for 14 points on the week! Pacioretty snagged his 5th career hat trick and first career 4 goal game on Saturday. Pacioretty and Radulov playing together have even been able to re-spark Tomas Plekanec as well, and overall gotten the whole team into a scoring frenzy. Our depth is coming up big in the absence of our 1C Alex Galchenyuk and the Habs are looking scary. Our very speedy penalty killer Paul Byron played a great week as well scoring 2 goals and grabbing 2 assists in four games, everyone give Galaxy91122 a big thank you for allowing us to grab Lord Byron!! Three Habs of the week: 1. Max Pacioretty, 2. Alexander Radulov, 3. Paul Byron
3 (2) Penguins ↑3 19-7-3 8-2-0 MRW the Penguins are undefeated in December. MRW so are the Flyers and the Blue Jackets, and they have longer streaks...
4 (6) Flyers ↑5 18-10-3 9-1-0 WE'RE GOING STREAKING!!!! We won 4 out of 4 this week and 8 straight. The Flyers haven't been pure dominating all these games though. But Steve Mason has refound his form upon becoming the undisputed number 1. He won us the games against the Bruins and the Panthers, making amazing saves and doing whatever he needed to, to make sure he kept his team in the game. This team is a lot of fun to watch right now. If only the rest of the Thunderdome wasn't also doing good.
5 (2) Rangers ↓3 20-9-1 6-4-0 When we lost Nash, Buch, and DJ ZBad all while Lundqvist's slump continued, I thought the name of the game was gonna be survival. But after an ugly loss to the Islanders AV decided to hold Lundqvist accountable for his poor play and give Raanta some starts. And holy shit what happens next is beautiful. Raanta gets 3 wins in a solid 2-1 win over the Jets, a thrilling 1-0 OT victory over the Hawks, and a thorough (and satisfying) 5-0 beatdown of the Devils. I love Hank and I both want and expect him to pull out of this slump, but I think in the meantime we have to ride the hot hand and that is without a doubt Raanta right now.
6 (1) Blackhawks ↓3 18-8-4 5-3-2 Chicago has been bit by the injury bug, having Crawford and Seabrook, along with Toews, sidelined. This past week saw the Hawks handle a young Coyote team with a 4-0 victory, an epic 0-0 battle going into overtime with the Rangers (only to lose in the early goings of the OT period), and a good divisional battle with the Stars Sunday night that concluded with a 3-1 win and a happy United Center. Rumor has it that Toews and Seabrook are both traveling to New York for our upcoming road trip, praise Hossa!
7 Capitals ↑6 17-7-3 6-3-1 Jake the snake Vrana is the real flipping deal fellas, and if he and Larry Eller can drag the ghost of Burakovsky up and down the ice we could have a very lethal 3rd line. Oh also shouts out to Vancouver for letting us play our first complete game in 4000 years.
8 (1) Flames ↑11 16-13-2 8-1-1 Hoooboy. This pas week was a doozy. We are 8-1-1 over the past 10 with a 6 game streak. We sit 3rd in the Pacific, but cautiously because of some bullshit call Games in Hand or something silly. Our system seems to finally been working, Shooting 142 and scoring 20 over the past 5, Bugs Bunny somehow slipped Chad Johnson MJ's Secret Stuff, and he's stopped 135 of 144 shots over 5 games for a cool .937, which is quite interesting because his 2016-2017 avg is .932. May the streak continue!
9 Blues ↑4 16-9-4 6-3-1 Fantastic game against the Devils following a disappointing loss against the Islanders. Schwartz and Fabbri are still hot, and Tarasenko's moved up to 2nd in the league in points. Our goal differential has finally gotten to a net positive. No more 1 goal margins for us, hopefully! This team seems to be settling into its identity, and injuries on our back end thankfully haven't slowed us down.
10 (1) Ducks ↑2 15-9-5 6-2-2 The Ducks had a nice rebound week. A sweet comeback against a hot Canes team, a solid but close victory against the Sharks and a rare slam dunk against the Sens must have them feeling pretty good about themselves again. They continue to play well at home, but they will have to step it up on the road, as a seriously difficult 6 game road trip lies ahead. Can they actually put up a good fight against Toronto for once? The next two weeks will be telling.
11 Wild ↑5 15-8-4 6-1-3 Winners of 4 straight, the Wild are coming into the holidays strong. Having games in hand will ensure they stay in the middle of the pack, but sooner or later their 4th-best goal differential so catch some attention.
12 Sharks ↑5 16-11-1 7-3-0 The Sharks celebrated their 1,000th franchise win (regular season & playoffs) Saturday against Carolina, and it was nice to see them bounce back after a couple of frustrating losses to Ottawa and Anaheim. The Sharks are still 7-3-0 in their last 10 though, and are finding ways to stay on top in a very competitive Pacific division. The next week will be a great test - four road games in six days at Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, and Chicago.
13 Kings ↑1 14-11-2 7-2-1
14 Senators ↓6 16-11-2 5-4-1 I would liken this week to National Lampoon's Vacation, where our stars trek across the country to California, with every conceivable calamity occurring along the way. But at least Wally World was closed when the Griswolds arrived, a fate the Senators were not so lucky to experience. Instead, Southern California and the Ottawa net were both wide open in the combined 9-2 stinkers against LA and Anaheim. After seemingly every Pittsburgher with a pulse and a hockey stick scored on Tuesday, it looked like the shellacking might have been an aberration when Condon stopped 35 of 37 a few nights later in San Jose. It wasn't and the team had a long flight back north to think about their defensive sins.
15 Bruins ↓4 16-12-2 5-3-2 Garbage week again from everyone not named Tuukka or Pastrnak. Hopefully shaking up the lines will wake this team up.
16 Oilers ↓6 15-11-5 3-3-4 The Oilers have hit a rough stretch of hockey, going 3-3-4 in their last 10 and dropping 3 out of 4 games this past week. They did manage to pick up 2 points from OT / SO losses however so they managed to salvage what could have been a much worse trip and cling to the 2nd spot in the Pacific Division. With Calgary and San Jose nipping at their heels they will need to get it back on track soon. It has become fairly clear at this point that when McDavid is on, the Oilers are on. Scoring depth is very much an issue as at this point it can be summed up as: 1. McDavid 2. Draisaitl 3. Whoever McDavid passes the puck to. While things are working right now, if McDavid or Draisaitl are out for any extended period of time this year it could spell doom for the Oilers playoff hopes. The Taylor Hall trade could be questioned many times over the course of this season if the Oilers can't find more scoring support for McDavid.
17 Red Wings ↑5 13-12-4 5-2-3 The Red Wings have only won twice in regulation in the last 22 games. It has been 247 days (April 9, 2016) since Sheahan has scored a goal. Howard (2nd in S%, 3rd in GAA) and AA have returned from IR with more players on the way. Sadly, long time Red Wings play by play announcer Ken Daniel’s son Jamie passed away at the age of 23. The Wings continue to struggle offensively but have picked up 8 of the last 14 points. Hopefully they can close the gap during the current home stand being only 3 points out of the 3rd play off spot in the Atlantic.
18 Panthers ↑3 13-12-4 3-4-3 Since the last write up, the Florida Panthers have lost 2 close games (some shouldn't have been so lose), got absolutely demolished by the Penguins (5-1, but sadly not as bad as Colorado) and then beat the Canucks (they woke up in the 3rd and caused heart attacks with 2 quick goals). Tom Rowe's record so far for those who are interested is 2-2-3. We haven't been as potent in the shootout/OT as usual but hopefully things start trending positively.
19 Predators ↓1 12-11-4 5-4-1 Pekka Rinne and team were one of the best teams in November, and now they've lost 4 of the last 5 and have allowed 9 goals in the last two games. Their struggles on the road have continued. The Predators only saving grace is that the Central and West aren't particularly great so far this season.
20 Islanders ↑7 11-11-5 6-3-1
21 Devils ↓4 12-10-6 3-4-3 No words for how the team is playing. Last year we had no offense but decent defense and an amazing goalie. This year we have no defense, no offense, both goalies are shitting the bed due to our defense. I don't know what's happening. I want this to end.
22 (1) Hurricanes ↑4 11-11-6 3-5-2 Starting off the week with a home game, Cam Ward stayed hot for over 60 mins, pitching an OT shutout in a 1-0 OT win against the Lightning. The PK remained great against TB's #1 ranked PP. Heading out to California for a 3 game road streak, the Canes went 1-1-1 with 3pts. Leading two times by at 2 goals, the Canes fell to the Ducks in OT 6-5 after another disappointing 3rd period on the road. Bouncing back the next night they pulled out a nice win over the Kings but fell 2 days later to the Sharks. A home stand coming up here should hopefully get the Canes a chance to show some consistency and string a few together in a row.
23 Lightning ↓8 14-13-2 2-7-1 1 win in the last 8 games. 1 regulation win in the past 4 weeks. We suck right now. I'm sad.
24 Jets ↓4 13-16-3 4-5-1
25 Sabres ↑3 10-11-6 5-3-2 Another average week in buffalo. Lost a game we should not have. Won a game we shouldn't have. Got blown out. Depending on who you ask, disco dan is either a hero or should be shot on sight. Everybody needs to calm down. If we are going to make the playoffs this year, we need to stop dying and start playing defense now that we are mostly healthy.
26 Stars ↓3 11-13-6 3-6-1 Hudler got ebola, and now that he's back he decided to pass on that ebola to everyone else on the team outside of Devin Shore, Antoine Roussel, Tyler Seguin, and Kari Lehtonen. This is the worst. We won one game against Nashville and used the high of that one game to feed the next two losses. This team is like an advent calendar that gives you temporary tattoos instead of chocolate.
27 Maple Leafs ↓2 11-11-5 3-5-2 The leafs are constantly defying expectations. Somehow that can get outplayed on the first half of a back to back and lose, then get 51 shots on the second half and lose. Boys are going through a bit of a skid right now, and it look vulnerable against teams who play with structure - Minnesota and Boston making them look silly, look good vs Col. This week promises to be a tough one, but lets hope the boys can stay within spitting distance of a wild card spot. Just to make February interesting.
28 Canucks ↓4 12-15-2 5-5-0
29 Coyotes 9-14-5 3-4-3 The Coyotes seems to be collecting 4th line centers in an attempt to have someone capable of playing the position. And now Max Domi is going to be out for six weeks. Patrick Nolan may end up in Glendale at the rate we're going.
30 Avalanche 11-15-1 3-6-1 Let's see 6 game losing streak 5 of which were at home not great then 10-1 loss in Montreal. Thisisfine.jpg
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Subreddit Stats: Edmonton posts from 2018-09-13 to 2018-10-22 16:24 PDT

Period: 38.85 days
Submissions Comments
Total 961 22799
Rate (per day) 24.73 571.96
Unique Redditors 739 3876
Combined Score 38147 104097

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 1123 points, 21 submissions: GeekyGlobalGal
    1. RCMP issue amber alert for girl, 6, abducted outside North Battleford mall (216 points, 105 comments)
    2. Meet Goliath, Gunther and Gasket: 3 bonded Saint Bernards at EHS that are in need of a home (175 points, 19 comments)
    3. My Snoo had an accident. Reddit responded. (68 points, 23 comments)
    4. Rollover on the Anthony Henday Drive flyover to Calgary Trail. A semi tanker trailer flipped over the guard rail to the steep shoulder. (68 points, 47 comments)
    5. 1 dead after car collides with moose on SE Anthony Henday Drive Monday morning (62 points, 40 comments)
    6. Edmonton bus driver attacked at Mill Woods Transit Centre Wednesday morning (62 points, 84 comments)
    7. Fatal collision shuts down Mill Woods Road in southeast Edmonton (55 points, 30 comments)
    8. The cat came back! After disappearing a year earlier, kitty reunited with Edmonton-area owners (54 points, 9 comments)
    9. Edmonton Humane Society CEO resigns in wake of cat neglect incident at shelter - Edmonton (51 points, 15 comments)
    10. Homemade bomb explodes inside bank in Chappelle Gardens (46 points, 34 comments)
  2. 877 points, 1 submission: mercedesvarlot
    1. Saw this on FB today— Awesome people doing awesome things! (877 points, 80 comments)
  3. 854 points, 26 submissions: Paper_Rain
    1. 'I didn’t believe what I was seeing': Edmonton woman wins $1M lotto prize (100 points, 36 comments)
    2. Conversation between strangers on LRT leads new Edmontonian to 1st hockey game, free of charge (81 points, 8 comments)
    3. Edmonton city council kicks free transit idea to curb (73 points, 83 comments)
    4. Soldiers of Odin Edmonton Chapter Shuts Down, Rebrands As ‘Canadian Infidels’ (58 points, 39 comments)
    5. Leon Draisaitl giving back to his adopted community (57 points, 9 comments)
    6. Community north of Edmonton rallies around family that received hateful letter (49 points, 12 comments)
    7. Alberta’s largest indoor bouldering-only gym opens Friday (42 points, 9 comments)
    8. Edmonton police believe convicted sex offender being released will commit another violent offence (42 points, 33 comments)
    9. Edmonton mother desperate to find round-the-clock care for son following 8 suicide attempts (41 points, 22 comments)
    10. 'Poisoned' street drugs trend frightening, safe injection site manager says (34 points, 44 comments)
  4. 726 points, 4 submissions: all_way_stop
    1. Shirtless roller blade dude serenading the Streetcar (453 points, 44 comments)
    2. moon setting over the west this morning (252 points, 10 comments)
    3. It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas ... (13 points, 7 comments)
    4. Couple of Panoramas of our Autumn River Valley (8 points, 0 comments)
  5. 639 points, 1 submission: Sneekpreview
    1. Happy Legalization Day, Edmonton! (639 points, 64 comments)
  6. 600 points, 2 submissions: BestEdmontonMallcom
    1. A for effort, Canadian Tire (472 points, 29 comments)
    2. Remember the Original Bourbon Street at West Edmonton Mall? (128 points, 30 comments)
  7. 579 points, 1 submission: Stalewine
    1. Not in service (579 points, 61 comments)
  8. 563 points, 1 submission: kelliechristie1916
    1. Tomorrow in Canada (563 points, 119 comments)
  9. 550 points, 4 submissions: WalkingCasino
    1. /Edmonton, how would you feel about a law that bans radio stations from playing commercials with honking/beeping/siren noises in them? (517 points, 129 comments)
    2. Since we're on a bit of a nostalgia kick, I really enjoyed the video games and "interactive" tv programs you could play with using this thing. (26 points, 18 comments)
    3. I have never in my life gotten a text or any solicitation from a political party. Are they just texting random numbers or has someone betrayed me and given out my number to political monsters? (5 points, 12 comments)
    4. Best places in town to buy a printer? (2 points, 26 comments)
  10. 496 points, 1 submission: joewest780
    1. Everyday (496 points, 25 comments)
  11. 493 points, 1 submission: BeeB0T
    1. A shot I got of downtown amidst the rain. (493 points, 27 comments)
  12. 491 points, 4 submissions: _ghostwriter_
    1. I made a fantasy LRT map for Edmonton. (405 points, 120 comments)
    2. Elise Stolte: Edmonton has a serious budget issue. Too many roads, too few people to pay for them (60 points, 158 comments)
    3. Coming to Edmonton’s housing market: the ‘pork chop’ lot (24 points, 22 comments)
    4. City unveils four concepts for future redevelopment of Exhibition Lands (2 points, 11 comments)
  13. 478 points, 1 submission: DJMintEFresh
    1. The Simpsons in YEG (2.0) (478 points, 111 comments)
  14. 457 points, 3 submissions: jeffmadams
    1. It was fun while it lasted. 😋 (258 points, 64 comments)
    2. This is Nashville Predators head coach Peter Laviolette. He had a bet if they won the first two games of the trip through Western Canada (Calgary & Edmonton) he would wear this. Haha (195 points, 15 comments)
    3. Poor Oilers Fans. 😂😂😂 (4 points, 2 comments)
  15. 428 points, 7 submissions: ThisIsYourMomOnDrugs
    1. I had a one in a lifetime experience at Costco yesterday. (354 points, 82 comments)
    2. Police warn that violent offender released from Bowden Institution will live in Edmonton. (24 points, 29 comments)
    3. Edmonton shisha bar shut down by city to protect 'public and patron safety' (16 points, 14 comments)
    4. Six rave-goers hospitalized, four in serious condition after Soundwave on Friday at WEM (15 points, 21 comments)
    5. View of the the new towers from the Royal Alexandra parkade. (10 points, 0 comments)
    6. Edmonton area dominates licensed cannabis shops ahead of legalization. (9 points, 27 comments)
    7. Sympathy for the crack house: Drug houses serve important role, advocates tell Edmonton drug policy conference (0 points, 9 comments)
  16. 409 points, 2 submissions: albertaboy07
    1. Hey Edmonton... (409 points, 91 comments)
    2. Heads up Edmonton!! (see comments) (0 points, 6 comments)
  17. 398 points, 2 submissions: 1GUNNA
    1. Last day of summer in downtown Edmonton! (383 points, 29 comments)
    2. Painisgood hot sauce (featured on Sean Evan's Hot Ones interviews) is available at local Winners/Marshalls/HomeSense locations! (15 points, 19 comments)
  18. 366 points, 2 submissions: McElheran
    1. Here’s a picture I took the other night of our city (208 points, 6 comments)
    2. I took this last night. It turned out better than I expected! (158 points, 11 comments)
  19. 351 points, 3 submissions: S3RI3S
    1. Summer well spent! (Biking Edmonton) (263 points, 52 comments)
    2. Too busy looking up last night at Nuit Blanche! (52 points, 9 comments)
    3. New lens = New photo! (36 points, 9 comments)
  20. 351 points, 1 submission: Dleduc02
    1. Sunrise From My Downtown Apartment (351 points, 32 comments)
  21. 351 points, 1 submission: blackandsail
    1. Good morning, Edmonton!! (351 points, 16 comments)
  22. 337 points, 2 submissions: z957q
    1. Province changes road test rules to make driver examiners government employees (201 points, 113 comments)
    2. Alberta announces mandatory bus and truck driver training (136 points, 44 comments)
  23. 332 points, 2 submissions: Laniidae_
    1. Oh, Whyte Ave. (327 points, 21 comments)
    2. Looking for good dog daycare/boarding recommendations. (5 points, 7 comments)
  24. 327 points, 3 submissions: dale_berg
    1. unbe-leaf-able (284 points, 17 comments)
    2. Some days. (28 points, 0 comments)
    3. Looking East. (15 points, 4 comments)
  25. 327 points, 1 submission: supamonkey2000
    1. Found this on hmmm, is it west Ed mall? It looks a lot like it. (327 points, 47 comments)

Top Commenters

  1. blairtruck (1257 points, 247 comments)
  2. MrPepesilva (998 points, 147 comments)
  3. GeekyGlobalGal (764 points, 84 comments)
  4. DarthPantera (676 points, 91 comments)
  5. 7eight0 (618 points, 101 comments)
  6. BitterTemperature (594 points, 133 comments)
  7. EdmRealtor (555 points, 148 comments)
  8. JeffBoner (539 points, 179 comments)
  9. PUnitThugLife (534 points, 112 comments)
  10. bawbzilla (526 points, 70 comments)
  11. Koladi-Ola (478 points, 96 comments)
  12. PussyJuiceBox (475 points, 190 comments)
  13. mikesmith929 (462 points, 120 comments)
  14. robdavy (462 points, 83 comments)
  15. renegadecanuck (455 points, 53 comments)
  16. unique_useyourname (444 points, 66 comments)
  17. TrevorYEG (443 points, 92 comments)
  18. PopularArgument (438 points, 91 comments)
  19. spockified (433 points, 44 comments)
  20. Rocky_Road_To_Dublin (427 points, 76 comments)
  21. IntrepidusX (418 points, 42 comments)
  22. ghost_pipe (410 points, 51 comments)
  23. PapaKipChee (391 points, 71 comments)
  24. lavaine70 (389 points, 73 comments)
  25. VA6DAH (386 points, 67 comments)

Top Submissions

  1. Saw this on FB today— Awesome people doing awesome things! by mercedesvarlot (877 points, 80 comments)
  2. Happy Legalization Day, Edmonton! by Sneekpreview (639 points, 64 comments)
  3. Not in service by Stalewine (579 points, 61 comments)
  4. Tomorrow in Canada by kelliechristie1916 (563 points, 119 comments)
  5. /Edmonton, how would you feel about a law that bans radio stations from playing commercials with honking/beeping/siren noises in them? by WalkingCasino (517 points, 129 comments)
  6. Everyday by joewest780 (496 points, 25 comments)
  7. A shot I got of downtown amidst the rain. by BeeB0T (493 points, 27 comments)
  8. The Simpsons in YEG (2.0) by DJMintEFresh (478 points, 111 comments)
  9. A for effort, Canadian Tire by BestEdmontonMallcom (472 points, 29 comments)
  10. Shirtless roller blade dude serenading the Streetcar by all_way_stop (453 points, 44 comments)

Top Comments

  1. 196 points: barneszilla's comment in What is the "Edmonton Club"?
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  3. 168 points: Czeching's comment in A ticket for not drinking and driving
  4. 162 points: Groovesharts's comment in Snow in September is normal, contrary to what people may think.
  5. 159 points: ACanadianPenguin's comment in How to deter people from coming on to property ?
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  7. 127 points: blownawayaway's comment in If you’ve ever wondered how the Henday could back up so bad between Cameron Heights and Terwillegar, or over Campbell road.
  8. 126 points: yegdriver's comment in A for effort, Canadian Tire
  9. 125 points: evilspoons's comment in /Edmonton, how would you feel about a law that bans radio stations from playing commercials with honking/beeping/siren noises in them?
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Hockey Canada Systems & Tactics

I just finished my BIG 6 Series of Hockey's BIG 6. These are 10 minute videos covering the legends, history, tactics, systems and culture of our favorite sport in the 6 BEST HOCKEY NATIONS.
Having just completed Canada, I wanted to go further into this discussion to provide you all with even more information I couldn't fit into the video.
*** (I also posted this on HockeyPlayers BUT I altered it quite a bit AND added far more information so it wasn't reiterated) ***
Canada invented what is known as the organized game of hockey as we know it. They evolved it into what it is today, through generations and generations of pioneers, legends and hockey families.
Throughout the 19th Century, and even at the start of the 20th, most teams had player-coaches. The best teams at the time were the ones who were most talented (not too far off from today). The most talented were often the teams that could play the most. These were typically found in Northern Canada for their cold climate. However, indoor ice rinks were starting to be quite common in Quebec, specifically Montreal, so that is where the best teams/players were.
Over time, the sport grew dramatically nation-wide and you eventually saw immense talent all over. Like Montreal, Toronto, Winnipeg, Etc.
Systems / Team Strategies weren't common until the start of professional hockey - where teams would have actual Coaches to manage the roster and develop tactics to improve the chances of winning. This seemed more common with the lesser talented teams who needed to find an edge to compete against the big boys.
It was apparent early on that the game was best played simple. Probably because of the ruthless nature of the sport. If you tried to be flashy and skate through an entire defense then you would surely be leveled by any of the opponents who simply didn't care where the puck was... they just wanted to shut you up.
In 1905 you can find headlines on the Ottawa Senators (little to no relation to the NHL Franchise today) for being a ruthless team. They gave the sport quite the reputation for being the most brutal game on Earth. Consider this team the original Broadstreet Bullies, it was the only way they could compete against the clubs from Montreal - it was not uncommon to find multiple skaters being sent off on stretchers back then especially.
[Ottawa had a small rink compared to the rest, allowing for such physical games. Take note that the NHL would allow different ice rink sizes for a long time. I think that changed in the 90's to make it a bit more standardized]
Anyway, much of that toughness is obviously still around today. Especially among Canadians.
I know of many situations in which some of the most talented of skaters would never get a chance in the NHL, or their opportunity wouldn't last long, because they didn't have that toughness. In the film, "The Rocket" about Maurice Richard, they touch on this quite a bit as many people feared that he didn't have that ability to last against the bigger guys in the league. He did...
But I am not here to talk about Maurice, so let's take a step back for a second.
I found a newspaper article from 1915 that discusses one of the first instances of a strategy being implemented. To combat a very talented Montreal team, Ottawa (yep, Ottawa again) would implement a "trap". Back in these days, hockey had 6 skaters (1 extra position known as a rover) and the idea was to simply play in a 1-2-3 formation. More defensive. This was labeled by the media as "Kitty Bars the Door Again". I don't quite get it as it's an old reference.
Rumor has it that Art Ross would take those tactics later on to help the Canadiens win a few Stanley Cups in the early 30's
You still with me? Okay, let's fast forward a decade to the 40's. Now we're talking about Toronto's Dynasty led by Hap Day. Hap was considered a defensive genius, both as a player and a coach. A lot of his special tactics displayed as a defensive player was later taught and implemented during his tenure as managecoach. These were pretty much a clutch and grab type of hockey that became very mainstream up until the recent rule changes that forbid interference. Just another thing that makes Canada, Canada.
Much of what I know of the great NHL coaches of the 40-70's are pretty much the same. They were strict. Wanted it simple. Trying to be fancy, usually didn't work and the risk always outweighed the reward.
I remember reading about Jac Plante who wanted to start wearing a goalie mask in a game. But he was afraid of his coach benching him for being "different". Talk about conservatism.
And while Hull and Mikita are known for "starting" the hockey curve trend, there are MANY reports of players using a curved stick well before them. But it wouldn't catch on as guys like Toe Blake, Hap Day and Eddie Shore would not have any of that NONSENSE.
It took a special player, and a special moment for those conservative views to be broken. Usually a risky situation, and if it played out.... it would go onto becoming HISTORY. But I bet you there are many times in which it didn't and we never heard about it.
Back to Maurice lol, The movie The Rocket displays this PERFECTLY.
In Don Cherry's movie, you see a young Grapes who was coached by Eddie Shore in the AHL. It was everything as I imagined it would be to play for Mr. Shore. Even if you played well, one wrong attitude would have you sitting. You could imagine that much of that attitude carried onto Grape's career as a coach when he was with Boston.
This would be the case for a long time too. Why change much? You were the BEST country in the world. You see that in every field of study.
Things don't change until they have to change.
Which they did. In the 70's we started to finally recognize the Soviets as being one of the best in the world and a potential threat to Canada Hockey's success. MOST coaches would call it hogwash and still hold Canada above the rest. But quite a few students of the game took the opportunity to learn from the Russians and evolve the game as a whole. In the US, we know Herb Brooks did this quite well.
But it also happened in the NHL and all around Canada.
I think it starts with Fred Shero, the Flyers Head Coach during the BroadStreet Bullying days. This is a guy who would implement a lot of new things - once again, because he had to. His team would not compete by trying to out-skill the others around the league. So he had to create a new identity. Toughness was #1. But it wasn't the only thing he would innovate. He was the first to start using film. He was the first to start Weight Training - with the Nautilus Machines (if any of you are passionate about Strength Sport History then the Nautilus has a fascinating story).
And he was very much into going against the status quo. Not sure if it was because he knew he was, or if he just had different ideas.
For example, against the Boston Bruins most teams would try to stay away from Bobby Orr's side of the ice. Fred wanted to the do the opposite. He wanted to do nothing but skate on Orr's side and dump it into his corner every chance they got. Why? They wanted to tire him out in the first period. Genius.
Not all of his tactics worked. Players recall the Bullies trying to out-skate the Canadiens and beat them at their own high flying type of game. That would prove disastrous with the Flyers losing terribly after the first period lol.
Scotty Bowman was another - who would be willing to adopt much of the Soviet ways. He would love to spend hours with Tarasov (Soviet Hockey's Father) talking shop. OH WHAT I would do to be a fly on that wall....
Bowman would also be the first NHL coach (knowingly) who implemented the Czech Left Wing Lock. Though he says that the smaller rinks in the NHL don't allow for such a style to do well. He was also among the few coaches to be very much in favor of European styles - with the Russian 5. Though he admits he would not always put them out there at the same time which he stats in the Red Army Documentary. Claiming that he didn't want the NHL teams to understand how to stop it, so it was used sparingly. Yet when he did, it was always an ESPN highlight reel play.
A lot of the NHL's HOF coaches throughout the 70's, to even today probably, are amazing guys to learn from. Glenn Sather, Al Arbour come to mind. Take note that many of these guys were simply just great mentors and leaders, and maybe not the best strategists. They knew how to handle players, especially the best ones. How to get the best out of them. Most of the time they just knew how to get the best players to relax and play their game... and how to get the lazy guys to start moving.
More modern coaches are quite different, with various resources at their disposal (*Cough, $$$$, Cough).
Darryl Sutter is apparently very much into advanced statistics. A lot of modern coaches use it to some varying degree. However, he's also a typical Canadian Coach who wants to see an emphasis on defensive play, hard-work and finishing checks.
Alain Vigneault is a more laid-back coach who lets the players coach themselves in terms of attitude. He's a very north-south type of coach who wants to see fast break-outs and quick entries into the zone. Classic French Canadian :)
Mike Babcock is known as the most profound coaches of today. A Bowman type of coach whose got an arsenal of tactics and strategies. He's typically known as being very well read up on his opponent and while many don't like to admit it, Babcock's systems can be quite defensive in nature.
Guy Boucher is known for his modern-day trap style, made famous with Tampa Bay years ago against the Flyers... which showed that the game would come to a stand-still when the offense decides to not do anything with the puck. Fans went crazy. Media went nuts. Blaming the defense for not doing something lol. I wonder if he would approach the same system with a more talented and deep team like let's say the Blackhawks or the Penguins.
And Jon Cooper is quite an out-of-the box hockey coach, who tends to follow a Swedish Torpedo type of forecheck on frequent occasions. This is a 2-2-1 system where he tends to have Victor Hedman in the back. Tends to be the type of break out too.
And while most of the league is Canadian, these are just some of the coaches whose strategies have been made known to the public - obv there goes way more into coaching than simply a tactic or formation.
Now it wasn't only coaches who found themselves changing the game. Players like Wayne Gretzky would inspire a new generation of hockey players, showing the importance of vision and skill. Much of what the Russians were doing in the 50's, but Canada wouldn't find normal until the 80's and 90's. Later came guys like Mario Lemiuex and Eric Lindros who showed that size doesnt have to limit skill. Once again inspiring a new approach.
You be amazed at how fast a system can change when you land yourself a generational talent
I dive a bit into the 3 Junior Leagues of Canada in my video, but to reiterate it here:
(1) Quebec is known for their fast-paced flow of hockey. Usually a less physical and more up tempo game.
(2) WHL is known for it's big players, tough defense and physical style. Watched a game once where a fight broke out - the announcers started off by stating the fighters height, weight and fighting experience. I was like WOAH.
(3) Ontario tends to be a balance of the two and you tend to see more diversity here.
With this said, it's important to know that the styles of play are far more blended in today than ever before. Though I like to believe that the roots of what fans from those areas like to see is set in stone.
All of this is what makes Canada so good at hockey. The Culture. The Systems. The Diversity. The Toughness. The Simplicity.
If you want to learn more about this, click here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPrZd3z0eZ8&t=1s
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What do you think is the major difference between Canadian police officers and American police officers? Biggest difference between American and Canadian police is simple.. Canadians are better educated, and paid more. Most Canadian officers that are hired on have a degree or multiple certifications/college diplomas. Average salary after 4 years of being hired on is about 84k annually not including overtime, this number will likely increase with the coming contract negotiations.
That's $84k Canadian? Still, quite decent, but just wanted to clarify... Yes 84K Cdn.
I chose the wrong profession... If you get into a specialty unit you actually get an 8% wage increase, and clothing allowance of 1100 annually.
Im glad you get paid well, thanks for the work. Thanks for the good wishes! They are typically far and few between :)
$50,374 - Starting salary (during Academy training) $66,905 - Upon graduation from the Academy. $71,261 - After one year. $84,739 - After five years. FYI. I believe that most services within Ontario are on Par or close to NY state's salary. I know some services State side are well paid, many are not.
You said that most officers have a degree. Do you have a degree? if so, what in? I have a degree in Criminology, a police foundations diploma, a diploma for electronics technician and another degree in GIS started.
Needless to say it was alot of money to go through university and college, but well worth it in the end.
Sounds great! Until you get to the 46.4 percent tax rate, and the taxes keep on coming. Then the cost of living, well, better off in a duplex in west Virginia. Many americans don't like the tax idea in Canada, but when you receive your paycheck and 1/3 of it is gone.. you kind of get used to it and realize that atleast if I got sick I'm not paying $1million in medical bills.
They pay for your clothes? And this does not count into your salary? Correct. You lose overtime hours that are given to those working on the road (80 hrs), but the trade off is if you are in a specialty unit typically you are in plain clothes. So yes they give you 1100 annually for that which isn't factored into your salary.
I'm looking at getting into the RCMP myself and have questioned actually going to school. I attended the career presentation put on by the RCMP and they said post-secondary isn't necessary. Basically what I'm wondering is do you think I'd have a better shot with courses such as Criminology under my belt compared to nothing but work experience and firearms licenses? It wouldn't hurt going either direction. Getting your FAC isn't a bad route, but not necessary unless you like to hunt/target shoot.
Are you pursuing the GIS degree for personal reasons, or does tie in to your career as a police officer? I initially started my GIS degree before any policing aspirations. I did fairly well in school getting several scholarships for post secondary education. I found at that time in my life I was not ready for university and decided to take a break and work, before going back and completing the other schooling listed above.
I ask because I working a CS degree and have recently become interested in the field of GIS. GIS can tie into policing if you are interested in a criminal analyst position. Tracking criminal trends over time and creating maps for divisional inspectors/investigators.
Thank you for giving me hope in getting my undergraduate business degree. Everyone thinks I'm wasting my time earning a B.Comm and wanting to join the Toronto Police later on. I plan on either going to grad school for an MBA or JD or even some college diploma programs afterwards. If you get your MBA many services will hire you for their financial department. Don't forget front line policing is only one aspect of what actually goes on in a police service. You have record managers, dispatchers, HR, financial services.. list goes on and on.
You go to UOIT? I took Criminology at UOIT yes.
Ah, right. Like if you are undercover, or something? Not so much undercover for the most part, but more so to blend in with the general public and not draw attention.
Currently aiming to finish my BA in GIS. Mind pointing out how one may go about becoming a criminal analyst? Its a field I'm interested in pursuing, one of the reason for studying GIS. Edit: accidentally a word. Usually drop a line to any of the police services HR departments and see if they are hiring for any analysts ... easy way to go.
What was the most dangerous/crazy situation you ever been in? I took photographs for criminal investigations/break and enters. So I was exposed to numerous autopsies and people in various states of death. I luckily have not been involved in any shootings, although have drawn down on numerous people believed to be armed. (The region I work in has very few murders maybe 10 annually).
Craziest situation I've ever come across is having to cut down a woman in the process of trying to hang herself. I was with a partner literally 200m away when the call came across. Lady called 911 advised she was going to hang herself and left the front door open so that officers didn't need to wake up her sleeping boyfriend upstairs to retrieve her body. She used the nylon packing rope to hang herself from the unfinished ceiling in her kitchen. I ran in with my utility knife cut her down and was able to resuscitate her before EMS arrived.
Wow, awesome. Kudos. Do you know where that woman is now? Or if she's doing fine? I doubt she is doing fine. She had chronic pain and various other ailments to begin with. I don't often get a chance to follow up with people. Unless I arrest them time and time again. Very rarely do you have people you deal with actually turn themselves around. Sadly once they are set on a goal they typically carry through with it.
K Moral question time, i think you did the right thing by the way. I think the whole concept of not being allowed to end your own life is horrible. Who is any one person to force somebody to live. She tried to kill herself, and you just brought her back into this world that she no longer wants to be apart of, shit i'd be pissed. We do not allow torture in this world, why do we allow people to be forced to live? I'm always on the job... once you sign up to be a cop you're a cop 24/7. If something were to go down and I was unarmed and I allowed it, I didn't do my job to protect the people I was sworn to do so.
That being said, i think a lot of people make snap decisions, or decisions under heavy intoxication, making saving somebody in this situation reasonable, and it is part of your job. But lets say you were in a situation where the person was genuinely depressed and no longer wanted to live, consciously making the decision to die, what would you do if you weren't on the job? I think if there was a humane way of someone wishing to end their life and it was legalized and the person was in a capacity to knowingly sacrifice their life then that is a decision they should (in my opinion) be able to make.
I have 5 immediate family members and literally know 100's of NYPD members. 4 out of the 5 in my family have never drawn their service weapon and about 98% of the hundreds I know have never either. I find it hard to believe you have "drawn down" on numerous people. Drawing down isn't the same as firing.. just remember that.
Why can't you be a cop here in the usa? can we clone you ? :( Maybe one day they can rebuild me... they have the technology!
*maybe one day I could be like Barry - Archer.
How do you take your Tim's bud? Haha sadly I don't drink coffee. I do drink tea/hot chocolate when it's cold out though.
Whats the most funniest situation you have ever been in? There are seriously too many to write. Officers typically find our humour a little darker than most. It makes it easier to deal with the situations at hand.
I remember getting a call for a lady trying to commit suicide, by driving her car into Lake Ontario. I get there to find that another officer was talking to her and didn't have her under arrest yet. I walked up and grabbed her and pulled her out of the car. (apparently all the couples making out/tokin up down at the Lake witnessed her trying to drive into the water in the middle of the winter. She tried to pull a Hollywood move of doing a donut to throw the people off the car that tried to get her to stop.).
I pull her out and she has no shoes on... I ask her where her shoes are and she replies that her sister is wearing them (sister is aimlessly wandering around the parking lot at this point.) Get the female driver out of the car and she won't let go of her purse dog (Dog's name was chomper... seriously chomper.). I finally try and wrench the dog out of her arms to affect an arrest all the while she's yelling get him chomper get him!
Placed under arrest and placed in the back of the cruiser she starts trying to kick out the windows.. .so out she comes again. Her feet were tied so that we can secure them to the floor of the cruiser, does her sister not come up to console her, but puts her hand on my sgt's shoulder. The other officer I was with kinda sees her out of the side of his vision and ended up socking her in the nose.
Finally they get the distressed driver in the car while I deal with the sister. I get a statement and wait for the husband to arrive to pick up his vehicle that we've managed to get out of the lake and back in the parking lot. As the sister goes to leave she thanks me and then goes to come in for a kiss. I obviously push her away, thinking what the hell is wrong with these people.. she walks away and comes back saying she forgot something.. and again tries to make out with me.. needless to say a funny funny evening.
I've had to mediate arguments between two crack addicts. All the while they argued over who was more pathetic. The wife complained the husband was on welfare and disability while they husband complained his wife "sucked dick" for crack.
The had 5 children taken away by CAS and when they were pregnant with their 6th they decided to move to our region. Our regions CAS was going to take their child when it was born so they opted for an abortion instead. They added they moved to our region from Hamilton to get "away from the drugs". Needless to say the building they moved in was one of the worst buildings for drugs in our city.
Whats your opinion on the recent Human Rights Watch Report that was released? as an aboriginal from Vancouver Island I would be interested in an officers opinion that isn't stationed in B.C. Also what do you think the procedure should be in terms of handling this? Who should overlook this? (Who should police the police?) I think it's hard to comment on officers actions outside of Ontario. It's hard to say as I've rarely had to deal with aboriginals although the ones I have dealt with (although drunk at the time) were very courteous and friendly. (My mother is also of aboriginal decent so maybe that's why I'm a bit more tolerant and understanding of things.)
What is the general consensus on weed? Does anyone really care about it anymore? Depends, some are very against, some are very liberal. I'd say I'm more towards liberal, However; with that being said if you have a pound of it in your car, I'll arrest you. If you're joe schmoe end user with a roach on you, it'll come down to the attitude test.
I may not charge you criminally for the roach, but you'll likely have another charge coming at you from another provincial offence.
The best story I've come across was a drunk guy that I arrested for being drunk in a public place, causing a bit of a disturbance. He was found with a scale and a small baggie on him. I initially found the scale and asked him what it was for and he replied chemistry... seriously the funniest answer I've ever heard... found the weed on him after the fact and just submitted it for destruction and didn't charge him for it. Honestly cops do have a sense of humour sometimes.
Have you ever arrested a NHL player? And are Canadians really nicer than Americans? I have never arrested an NHL player.. but yes an OHL hockey player.
Canadians are generally polite (generally speaking), but I don't deal with the general population for the most part, so the people I usually deal with are assholes to me, which I'm fine with as it's all part of the job. Almost all Americans I have met are nice, but I'm sure if I were to go to the less desirable areas I would find my share of assholes as well.
Side note, the Americans I have met typically decide not to drink with us for some reason. Had an American officer mention something about almost getting alcohol poisoning last time he did .. haha.
There must be something in their water ... or beer rather. What's water?
Legalization? I think the only thing holding back legalization of marijuana is a definitive test to tell whether a person is intoxicated by drug while driving. Otherwise the Canadian government would've taxed the hell out of it and sold it for themselves.
I bet a math problem would do the trick. Haha you'd think! I've met some pretty intelligent pot heads, mind you I'd rather deal with a pot head than a drunk any day. They tend to be more compliant, more forth coming and not to mention funnier than any drunks.
I notice a difference in uniforms between American and Canadian cops, mainly that all cops that I've encountered in Canada wear their kevlar vest on the outside, while most of the American cops seem to have it under their dress shirt. Is there particular reasoning behind this? We have inner vests as well that we could wear, but for the most part I think it's the visibility factor for the public, along with the option for compartments for our notebooks and tactical options that can be placed on the vest.
Canada has stronger gun control laws than the US. That being said, do you usually carry firearms with you on patrol? Yes. I think Britain is one of the only countries that do not. We carry our Glock 22 on patrol and typically have a C8 or 12 gauge shot gun in our cruiser.
Jenkins! Get the tactical notebook! The notebook has a pistol grip!
Sounds like you're planning on attacking norway. My moose doesn't get my air miles so I'll likely be stuck here .. until we devise our plan of the flying moose.
Moose jokes? Come on, it's only the GTA. We've actually had moose in my area and yes I operate in the GTA.
What's the scariest situation you've ever been in? Hard to say on the scariest, there are times where we have had to drive 160km/h+ (100mph) through city traffic to get to an armed person call, etc.
I remember having to deal with an ex-Canadian armed forces member who had beaten his wife pretty bad. Taking three officers to hold him down to effect an arrest as he was about 6'5 260lbs and solid as a rock. We got him cuffed, but trying to get him in the car was another issue. He was fighting us even while handcuffed. In the end it didn't work out well for him, but he laughed the entire time we tried to soften him up to get him in the car. In the end he just stopped fighting and was like... ok fine I'll get in... chuckling the whole time... WOULD not have liked to go toe to toe against this guy solo. (I'm by no means a small guy - 6' 220lbs)
We take care of each other pretty well up here. Most shifts have approximately 18 people working at a time in the area I work. So we ensure officer safety at all times. I'll take a look through my old stuff and see if anything further pops out to tell stories about.
As a former CF member I am sorry. I have the utmost respect for the CF. I helped out a dude that returned from Afghanistan. (we dealt with his buddy the night before that had gone ape shit in the hospital fighting everyone.) He knew he was messed in the head and I offered what help I could in referrals to get him some counseling so he could deal with what he's seen.
Worst drunks I've ever had the pleasure of working with. Really would be nice to be given the time to follow up with guys like this to see if they actually sought help and received it. He was genuinely a good guy and his folks were concerned for his well being.
Before the bullshit Stunt driving law, driving 160km/hr+ on the 401 between Oshawa and Quebec was standard speed. I'm not sure to be honest. I think partially it's because no matter how high they raise the limit someone will always push it higher.
What is your take on speed limits in the GTA, why have the 400 series highways remained at a 100km/hr limit? I've driven in Germany on the Autobahn and seen some vehicles blow by me at ridiculous speeds, but there are still speed limits in some zones.
Do you know his name or regiment? I could probably look into it if you'd like... However I'm sad to say a lot don't, even with such a known illness as PTSD. I got nothing for my tinnitus, it seems they would rather just forget you once you are out. I don't recall.. there are some names that stick because it's something traumatic you deal with or you deal with them on a regular basis, but when you do upwards of 300 calls annually (not including traffic stops, or general public you come across). Names sometimes just don't stick.
Near my office there is very empty and spacious road with a posted 60km/hr zone, yet the average travelling speed is between 75-85 km/hr. Cops are doing radar every day there, and from my window I see dozen of people being pulled over travelling at illegal yet harmless speeds. When cops ticket speeders in zones where the limits are too low do they sympathize with the speeder? Or is there a mentality that the speeder "deserves" it? I'd say it depends on the situation, some will go there because they know the speed limit is low and they will write 5-10 tickets in a morning and not think twice about the driver. Others will sympathize but at the end of the day do their job. I've had numerous people complain about where I have done radar. I typically don't choose a location on an incline/decline, I locate myself in a community safety zone or areas where complaints have come in. Most people are cut a break (I hate giving traffic tickets out). They typically understand why I am targeting those areas and go on their way. Every now and then someone raises the question on how to change the speed limit in the area and I usually refer them to the municipal offices to put forward a change.
So the C is for "Canada" and the M is for "Murica"? I guess so! :D.
Give us some steps on staying safe? Staying safe in Canada or the United States? As I've only been to a few places in the US I can't really comment. As for Canada it's easy. If you associate with criminals, bad things typically will follow. If you associate with good people the only thing you really ever have to worry about are car accidents and other driving like idiots. I'd say that's the only thing you should worry about in Canada.
You always hear of home invasions on TV... they are not home invasions people!!! they are drug rips! I'd have to say almost 95% of the "home invasions" I've gone to are all drug rips.
What do you mean by drug rip's? cause my house was broken into on boxing day in 2009 and there certainly were not any drugs inside. Broken into is not the same as having someone push their way into your home while you are there, hog tying you up, pistol whipping you and then ransacking your home.
Ah, k thanks for clarifying, I was thinking of home invasion as in someone uninvited being in your home, I gather it is more along the lines of a hostage type deal than getting robbed then? Not so much as a hostage type situation as they don't really stay long to request/demand anything. They typically will tie up the home/owner (often drug dealeindebted user) and steal anything of value.
What was the stupidest thing you've ever caught someone doing and charged them for it? A guy filming his wife in their bathroom. The guy had some voyeurism fetish, but for some reason would film his wife without her knowledge, eventually it took it's toll on her and she called us to arrest him.. I'm still confused as to why he wouldn't just tell her he was into it that way she wouldn't be so creeped out. They had a kid together so one would think they at some point they had to have sex.
The guy had some voyeurism fetish, *but for some reason would film his wife without her knowledge* Could have been because that's what voyeurism is. Correct.. but one would think that being married and having a child voyeurism of your wife would be out of the norm..
Yeah, he should have manned up and filmed strangers. One would think he would... just not a typical voyeurism case.
In the end he was more worried about the seedling plants he had in his basement than the voyeurism charge.
What a twist! The twist is he also filmed his friends who were living with him and his wife at the time. (filming over the toilet). Wife left him only to return to him and have him film her again without her knowledge a second time... wondering if third times a charm.
Have you ever done a desk pop? I have not... but I know of people that have had their gun go off unexpectedly in various locations around the station. I'm sure this story is common with other services as well.
ND's should not be common in a profession where one is expected to be proficient with the proper handling and use of a firearm. That being said, what kind of consequences can an officer who has had an ND be facing? Typically they can be docked hours/pay/both... sent for additional training and have it documented.. this prevents them from moving to another position or could set them back in getting a promotion.
Wait, seriously? Story please. They are typically people joking around and acting foolish and then pop... uh oh... gun holstered and off to the staff sergeants office to get reamed.
That's some pretty poor weapons discipline there. What gives? Even in countries with good weapon discipline someone tries to be a comedian or does something foolish. One persons actions don't represent the people.
Can you quickly summarize your average day? Typically it's get to work 30 minutes early. Get dressed, go to parade to see what has been happening while you were away from work. Get your firearm, vehicle and head out. From there depending on what time you are starting at, it could be extremely busy or extremely slow. Do what ever paperwork needs following up from the day before and then start answering calls if nothing demanding is needing attention.
That's a typical day. Obviously different days of the week vary. Thurs-Sat nights tend to have more bars open and can result in more drunk driving calls/bar fights/disturbances.. but any day of the week can result in a jackpot call happening.
What is a "jackpot call"? btw youre amazing and glad there are Police who are as chill and honest as you! A jackpot call would typically be a priority 1 or 2 call.. your violent domestic calls, assaults in progress, robbery, firearm related call, officer in need of assistance call... stuff like that.
Were you involved in any of the G20 meeting security? Image was provided up above. I was unfortunately not involved in the G20 summit. Although I know numerous people that were. It's funny because there is always information that doesn't make it out into the public and police are perceived as being heavy handed. There were numerous attacks on railway switches before the G20 summit, believed to be tests for an actual attack downtown Toronto (Toronto has a major railway artery that runs right through the city). Also it was known that the black bloq were going to attempt vandalism and theft, but it's tougher to tie down who those individuals will be and at what point they will attempt anything.
Most ridiculous arrest you've made? Ridiculous in what way? As in cheapest arrest charge or as in most ridiculous situation someones gotten themselves into?
The most ridiculous situation someone has gotten themselves into. I've had a guy break into a beer store through the roof and get locked inside, and instead of having the common sense to unlock the front door kicked up his feet and just drank himself unconscious... that was pretty ridiculous.
What do you think of the rising use of drones by police forces? I agree that during an arrest they should be transmitting, but I guess the biggest thing is would you agree to someone filming you 24/7 as a civilian?
What do you think of the idea of mandating that police officers must wear cameras on their uniforms that record continuously and transmit the data to the police station and an independent 3rd party? There would be things you say or do that would potentially get you in trouble with your significant other, boss, friends... that is always the fear with having a camera on 24/7 brings and is no different in law enforcement. Having it on during an arrest makes sense up here though.
It wouldn't be 24/7 unless you're in uniform on duty 24/7... Sometimes it feels like you're working 24/7.
I get that. But what I was trying to say was that officers wouldn't be filmed 24/7. Officers already are filmed 24/7. Everyone with a camera phone, cruiser cameras, and then those that go out of their way to harass off duty officers (yes they exist). An off duty officer trying to effect an arrest at a theatre due to drunken fools causing a disturbance can guarantee they will be filmed by someone.
At some point an officer should be able to relax and be able to take a crap without it being audio and video recorded. (a bit extreme, but not untrue). I agree that when effecting an arrest it could be beneficial, for both the public and the officer, but having a video/audio recorder on all the time is excessive/unnecessary and would end up likely costing the tax payers more in the end. (think long term storage of large video/audio files).
What do you think about that 15 year old kid getting shot? Do you see an over all trend of these kids getting younger and younger or is that a one off? I think it was a one off.. although Toronto is developing some dangerous youngsters. We see 16 yr olds coming into our region that are armed and have been convicted numerous times of firearm related offences.
I would find it hard to say they are getting younger and younger, but more media coverage is definitely sensationalizing the lifestyle.
What do you think is the key to keeping the young kids away from gang life? What percentage of kids in bad neighbourhoods would you say end up or associated with gangs? I would say that the area doesn't make the kids associate with gangs, it's the lack of parenting. I've dealt with kids that have been arrested numerous times for firearm related offences and every time the parents yell and holler saying we're harassing her son. YET EVERY TIME WE FIND A GUN ON HIM! haha seriously I grew up in a shitty area of town along with 3 close friends and none of us have strayed to the dark side. (the 3 close friends are non-officers.)
I live in Ontario. I am a regular marijuana user. Honestly, most cops seem to turn a "blind eye" to someone smoking a joint in public around here, or at say a festival-type event. Typically it's not about the day I'M having, but more so about how the subject is acts and treats us/the general public.
Where do you draw the line on this, if someone is off on a park bench smoking a single joint, not bothering anyone, are you really going to give them a hard time? Or does it depend on the kind of day YOU'RE having? I was always raised on treat others how you want to be treated. Don't expect respect earn it.
Basically, what's your stance on something like this. So when another person expects respect immediately from me without earning it, it kind of bothers me especially when they then in turn say something silly like "fuck the police". That person might find that I have freed up some time to do the necessary paperwork for their arrest.
(Early morning, please bear with the terrible grammar and sentances) If they were to turn around act civilly there typically is no problem.
Do you every say "sorry" to people as you arrest them? Never. if I'm arresting someone it's for a reason and therefore shouldn't be sorry.
If I'm smoking bud in my car and hop out, lock the door and an officer pulls up and starts accosting me, asking if I have weed on me and telling me to open my car. Am I correct in telling him that he requires a warrant? Also, I have no weed on me, just smell. Well, personally, it would depend on your attitude totally. If you have a small roach, have never been in trouble before and were upfront and honest with me I'd likely have you toss the roach and stomp it, with no charges laid. (maybe just a reference in my notes to me dealing with you). If you came out and decided to be a dick, there are other ways and means of dealing with people in this manner... don't forget criminal is just one way we can deal with you. I wouldn't waste my time getting a warrant on a roach in a car. I'd just go after you through the highway traffic act, or various other provincial acts and hit you financially.. just saying there are more ways to skin a cat.
Most officers I know pretty well have this stand point. Be upfront and honest and don't be a dick and you will find that you get treated how you treat us.
I'd just go after you through the highway traffic act, or various other provincial acts and hit you financially. Kinda immature... Just advising there are more ways to gain entry to a vehicle or deal with person than just criminally.
Why do you need to prove it though? Ah I dont know your procedures, I would just be pretty annoyed if it happened to me. I feel like its harrassment, the warrant should be necessary for good reason I would think... Sure and in many cases it's obtained. But remember no officer is going to randomly stop and say get out of your car I'm searching it... there are grounds for the search or they obtain a warrant because there are grounds to search it.
I have seen teens that have been arrest 6+ times for firearms offences... the family claims the police are harassing her son... the question is .. is it harassment when the son is found time and time again with a firearm? and goes out and commits firearm related offences?
Do people really "steal" maple syrup? People will steal anything and everything not bolted down. The most typical items stolen from grocery stores are steaks.
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