Odds and Ends (part 1) BigCloset TopShelf

All Unanswered Questions

Quick Timeline: I used this timeline to help keep things straight for these questions (and just my own sanity) - it is based on PLL Dream Logic timeline, considering how long November in 2011 was lol.
Season 1A: 8/2010 - 10/2010
Season 1B: 10/2010 - 11/2010
Season 2A: 11/2010 - 12/2010
Season 2B: 12/2010 - 4/2011
Season 3A: 8/2011 - 10/2011
Season 3B: 11/2011
Season 4A: 11/2011 (weeks 1-3)
Season 4B: 11/2011 (weekes 3-5)
Season 5A: 11/2011 (week 5) - 12/2011
Season 5B: 2/2012 - 3/2012
Season 6A: 3/2012 - 5/2012
Season 6B - 5 year time jump

All Unanswered Questions

Teams?
  1. Noel and Mona dated at one point – could they have been working together?
  2. Who was all on the original A team?
  3. How many, and who, is helping AD? From the finale, Alex told Spencer "Sydney was a one-off. She was stealing from a bank and I knew it, but she fit the hoodie. But Jenna, she had my respect. Jenna recruited Noel to look for me because she knew that Charlotte had a sister and the Carissimi Group was just the tip of the iceberg. Charlotte left me everything." Alex said that Jenna was desperate for a chance to regain her sight, so after agreeing to do AD's bidding, Alex paid for the eye surgery. Sara was looking for money (see below under Sara's section)
Cece
  1. Was everything Cece told the girls (during her reveal), accurate? (Specifically about Marion and Bethany. Did Cece lie to Ali about why she was “A”? Did Cece know the whole time she was adopted and that Mary was her real mother?)
  2. Why did Radley let Cece pretty much do whatever she wanted? Did she lie about returning to Radley after she transitioned?
  3. How exactly was Cece able to have college roommates when she was supposedly at Radley?
  4. Did Cece and Jason ever hook up? Or did they just kiss?
  5. Was it revealed how Cece funded the dollhouse and everything? Marlene said Cece was just a good investor http://www.wetpaint.com/pretty-little-liars-season-6-summer-finale-answers-1432257/
  6. How did Cece get the vial of blood in Spencer’s bad while she was in England? Was it Melissa or Wren? At this point, I am guessing Wren, although I don't think is was ever said. However, knowing the connection with Wren and how Alex said that the two of them, along with Archer and Cece did everything together, my bet is on Wren
  7. If Cece was a patient at Radley, why did she need a visitor pass? When exactly did she get released from Radley?
  8. Cece didn’t actually go to Rosewood High School, so how was she listed in the year book, as belonging to different clubs and being prom queen?
  9. Why was Cece (A) and AD, so obsessed with how the liars used to look? In the dollhouse, she was obsessed with Aria’s pink hair. Why?
Melissa
  1. How much does Melissa know about everything with Spencer?
Fire at Thornhill Lodge
  1. We know that Shana set the fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LfFlODGE-Y). Originally she was helping Alison, but then fell in love with Jenna, and wanted to get revenge for what the girls did to Jenna.
  2. Sara Harvey (red coat), saved all the girls, minus Hanna because Ali saved her. http://prettylittleanswers.com/264/
  3. Cece set the whole meeting up, because she knew that Allison would show up if the girls were in real danger, and she suspected that Allison was alive
  4. Melissa told Spencer that she sent Shana and Jenna to watch over them and not to hurt them, so I am guessing we are to assume that she had no idea what Shana was planning. AND Melissa said that Wilden started the fire because Jenna and Shana saw him, so I am guessing they lied to her about that to protect themselves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwZwlhodPio
  5. Questions that remain: Why was Melissa working with Jenna and Shana in the first place? Why would Cece have Sara Harvey save the girls, if she hated them? And Jenna seems to bounce between teams...did she know what Shana was planning? http://pretty-little-liars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Incident_at_Thornhill_Lodge for another reference
Maya
  1. What exactly did Maya know? (I know it represented something, can’t remember what, but Marlene mentioned there might be something more to the story)
  2. Why was there a website about Maya?
Mona
  1. Rollins was Mona’s Dr. in Radley as well. Is there a reason why?
  2. When Dr. Sullivan’s work was broken into (by Mona), why did she write the British spelling for nosey on the wall?
Jenna
  1. Why did Uber A (AD?) kidnap Jenna?
  2. Jenna said her and Cece were friends (goes to a flashback of Cece, Rollins, and Jenna). And yet, Cece tried to drown Jenna way before that. Why? Were they really friends?
  3. Does Jenna just jump between different A teams? First she seems evil, then she seems to be helping Melissa for some weird reason, and then she is evil again?
Noel
  1. Why did Noel help Cece in the dollhouse?
  2. Did Noel actually Kill Sara Harvey? Yes, Noel killed Sara. Jenna told the girls that Noel killed Sara because he found out about the money Sara was going to get, in order to help pay for surgery for her hands, and Noel was cut off from his parent's money, so he killed Sara in order to get that money. Who knows if that is true, but I guess that is what we have to accept at this point.(https://twitter.com/imarleneking/status/860634128923873281)
Sara
  1. Was Sara Harvey REALLY Red Coat and Black Widow? Yes, she was Black Widow and apparently the third Red Coat (Alison was the first red coat, and Cece was also red coat at one point), Sara was more often a decoy Red Coat
  2. Why did Sara help Cece in the first place? Alex said "Charlotte told Sara that she hid her greatest treasure under Radley and Sara thought she was talking about some pot of gold." The treasure was actually the file on Mary Drake. Marlene said that was the motive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFu9vTNu9M.
Rollins
  1. Why did ArcheElliot hide his British accent?
Allison
  1. Did Allison know way back when, that Mona was the one torturing the girls?
  2. Where exactly was Allison when she was gone that long? Clearly, we won't really be finding out: Q: Will we get to find out what Ali had been up to while she was “dead”? I feel like there should be a spin off show showing Ali while she was away, have you ever thought of it?;) Marlene: Yes, I have thought of it! Alison: the Missing Years. http://prettylittleanswers.com/1004/
  3. Why didn't Ali return to Rosewood after Mona was revealed to be the first A? Did she not want to come back? Did the threats not stop? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udYMBlWVChc
  4. Did Ali really take those photos of Aria sleeping? If so, why?
  5. Which guy pulled a gun on Ali before? (Ali was telling Emily she could break up with Ben for her, which is when she told her about the gun)
  6. Who attacked Ali during the Halloween episode, when she was pulling that prank on the girls?
Ezra
  1. Was Ezra in Cape May as well?
  2. What did Eddie Lamb drop off for Ezra? Why did he want to talk to Ezra specifically?
  3. Why was Cece on Ezra’s payroll?
  4. Why did Ezra have blown up pictures of Ali in his lair?
  5. Why did Ezra have two lairs?
Bethany
  1. How the heck does Bethany fit into any of this?
  2. Will Bethany’s drawings ever be explained?
Wren
  1. What is Wren’s connection? Is he Bethany’s brother? Or maybe Aria’s cousin? Wren was helping Alex and was in love with her. See more below, to help answer other Wren questions
Here is what we know:
Conclusion
  1. What was the deal between Eddie and Wren? Not entirely sure, but more than likely, Eddie knew that Wren was up to no good
  2. Why did Wren authorize Cece to visit Mona? Wasn’t Cece already a patient? Even if she wasn’t, why would he let her see Mona? (See above, I believe number 2 explains this)
Aria
  1. What did Aria whisper to Mona in the theater that made her so upset? From comment below, this is irrelevant; Mona and Marlene said Aria was just making whispering noises during this scene and wasn't actually saying anything
Jason
  1. Why Jason hiding someone in his house when he first moved back to Rosewood? (He always acted super sketchy)
Wilden
  1. If Wilden was being paid off from the start, then why was he trying to solve Ali’s murder the whole time?
  2. Is Wilden 100% Beach Hottie?
  3. Why did Wilden have two different passports and literally nothing personal in his apartment?
Jessica
  1. What is up with Jessica and why is she always so sketchy?
Mary
  1. Why was Mary Drake even in the blind school when Spencer was shot? To protect her from AD, Alex
  2. When Mary Drake disappeared from Rosewood, where was she the whole time?
That Night
  1. What EXACTLY happened on "that night?" (Who was in the yellow top, Cece or Bethany? Was Melissa really seen talking to Cece? Did Mona actually hit/kill Bethany Young? How did it all go down?)
  2. There is a video (I think from that night), where Melissa is handing something to someone and she says “Do it, just do it” – who was this person?
  3. Why was Bethany wearing an Allison bracelet when she died? Was this just an accident by the writers?
  4. Why did Spencer say she thought she heard her scream, when Allison didn’t scream?
Story Issues
  1. That creepy kid from the doll shop (season 3 I think), what couple with dark hair was he talking about, who wanted to hurt Ali? Or was he lying? More than likely lying, because in the A scene after that episode, A gives money to the old woman and a lollipop to the kid
  2. According to Wren, Melissa told Cece that Mona was in Radley. BUT, according to Mona and Cece, Cece was in Radley when they brought Mona in. So who the heck is lying??? Now knowing the connection Wren had to all of this, Wren was more than likely lying (especially when we KNOW that Cece stole the game from Mona in Radley. Better explanation above under Wren's section
  3. Did Ali lie to Ezra about her age once or twice? (There is a letter written to him saying she wants to celebrate her 18th birthday with him http://68.media.tumblr.com/e7e3b11288b1a1a9ddefb3d79aff9497/tumblr_ms8ex7f9qd1rzt41jo1_400.jpg, which apparently, from the pictures in Ezra's lair they DID go together, the summer she disappeared https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_WddBmSNME; then on the night of her disappearance, he scolded her for lying to him and saying that she was 21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpszAfDSEqY. Why would he be so mad if he already knew? Maybe, that letter came right before he figured it out?)
  4. Cece said that Jessica didn’t know she was “Cece Drake” until the day they were all leaving for Cape May. BUT in a flashback of Allison’s (or Jessica), Jessica was freaking out on Ali and saying that when she showed up somewhere after the police called her, that she came to find Cece Drake – SO, that means Jessica DID know that Charlotte was Cece. Was Cece lying then?
Marion's Death
  1. How would Jessica D. have paid off Wilden for Marion’s murder when he was only a teenager at the time, and probably not even a cop yet? The kids in the flashback were supposed to be young - assuming that Wilden is fairly older than Ian and Jason, that would make Wilden 20 at that time (Hanna made a comment in 1x03 that he was in the class of '96; and in a scene with Emily and Cece, Emily is asking about Wilden and says "he was a few years older than you" The only weird discrepancy, is that Spencer makes a comment to Melissa saying "you went to high school with him" in 4x03). Yes, a bit far-fetched, but I think we will just have to accept it for what it is: dream logic
  2. How would Bethany have killed Marion, when Marion was in a scene with Toby when he was a teenager? Marlene said that Bethany DID kill Marion. Here is her direct quote: "That was Bethany Young. I mean, there was, to this day, the controversy of the flashback, because we made the kids look so much younger [in the Bethany and Charles scene]; we used to play flashbacks when Keegan was 19 and he could play a 13 year old [the scene with him and Ali and his mom]. Not now that he is a man. So we switched gears on that one, which confused a lot of people, but that's the truth" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFu9vTNu9M ALSO see this Twitter post by Marlene https://twitter.com/imarleneking/status/631597441519849473 Basically, I think Marlene admitted that they just switched up the ages in Charles Game Over (meaning, when Toby told Emily in season 1 that his mom died a year ago, is completely irrelevant now).
Ages, to help explain:
Charles (Cece) - Born 1986 (was born 15 months before Jason) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON96Vm_ceag (she was in Radley at the start of age 9 - she dropped Allison in the tub when she was 1, and Cece said that for the next 7 years she was pretty lonely, at age 17 or 18 she was able to start taking college classes, while in Radley. She visited Jason during yearbook photos) Jason - Born 1987 (graduated high school in 2005), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofM24Nh8Gkw, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKIcNLnj9fk Allison - Born 1994 (was 14 when she went missing, but was about to turn 15, in 2009)__
With Marlene FINALLY admitting they just decided to change gears, Bethany was around 6 (because she was 17 when she went missing in 2009, and Marion died in 1998) and Charles was 12 when Marion died. This fits with the timeline, because Charles was 16 when he transitioned to Cece. Basically, the whole timeline is based off of dream logic, because how would a 6 year old be able to push someone off of the roof??
Other
  1. Who was the fourth person to the picnic with Jenna, Sydney and Mona? What were they talking about?
  2. Who burnt Cyrus and why? What was his purpose?
  3. One of the A scenes shows someone shredding a social security card with the name Paul Varjack on it. Is this a false identity? Or is this a real person?
  4. What heck is with Mrs. Grunwald, this entire time?
  5. Who did Jason write a check to, for the $50,000? Was it Ezra (since Aria found that stack of cash in his drawer)? But then the next scene is “A” buying stuff with that money – was that “A” or was that Ezra?
  6. What is the deal with the Eliza Amish girl?
  7. How did Eddie Lamb recognize Aria? What happened to him? According to Marlene, Eddie skipped town because he didn't want to be in Rosewood and caught in everything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFu9vTNu9M
  8. Did Ian actually commit suicide? Yes he did, and Mona wrote the note http://www.seventeen.com/celebrity/movies-tv/news/a33161/i-marlene-king-reveals-the-answers-to-the-burning-questions-that-werent-answered-in-the-finale/
  9. How are ALL the liars involved in this hate (or whatever the motive is), of AD? Especially Emily? Alex was jealous of Spencer and also wanted to get revenge on what they did to Charlotte, because she blamed them for her murder; confirmed in series finale.
  10. Who kidnapped and tortured Hanna? Apparently, it was Alex. But, Noel could have helped her; confirmed in series finale
  11. Who actually shot Spencer? Alex; confirmed in series finale
  12. Who is Emison’s baby daddy? Wren; confirmed in series finale
  13. Was Toby and Yvonne’s accident, actually an accident?
  14. Who was the ghost girl in Hanna’s room during the Halloween episode? That was just a legitimate Halloween ghost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFu9vTNu9M
  15. Who put knives insides of Jake’s punching bag?
  16. Who was Emoji A? Is Emoji A, Uber A, and AD all the same? AD and Uber A are the same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_lmb6IZsjQ, still not sure about Emoji A
  17. What is the significance of Leslie Stone? Why did she have a million pairs of glasses that weren’t prescription?
  18. What exactly happened in Cape May that summer?
  19. Who identified Allison’s body, and how did they identify it incorrectly? (This could have been Wilden, but I can’t remember)
  20. Did AD build the board game? Yes, Alex did.
  21. Who is Black Widow? Sara? Melissa? Sara is revealed as Black Widow

EDIT: After the finale, I am going to come back to this and post the answers we get!!

EDIT: some answers added.
If you want some other answers watch this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFu9vTNu9M
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Took a while, but the rage has set in! What i wanted the ending to be

Two friends and I watched the PLL finale. We had made bets on what we thought was going to happen. We were all really happy to see the Spencer twin, and the idea that Wren was in love with Alex came true!
The episode ended, we got drunk.
Now, a week later, I realised that the finale was a load of bull. I'm old enough to remember the whole 'Dallas Shower Dream' mania, I hoped so bad that this wouldn't be the same. I'm now wishing it had ended with one of the liars being trapped in Radley and it was all in their head because THAT would have made some (very annoying) sense.
It was clear that Marlene was flirting with the idea of a gazillion outcomes. Nearly every main character had enough shadiness to make them AD, and for it to make sense, so why did she cop out?
There was no full circle, we deserved that full circle ending.
I just wanted to share the ending I was hoping for because, well it makes more sense than Spencer's twin (aka, Dick Van Dyke) being AD.
Now forgive me, my time lines are going to be whack. Remember - Cece is really Bethany.
Lets now skip some stuff and jump to final season
The End:)
And I see you, down voters, this is just for fun and makes me feel a whole lot better that I have an ending in my head that makes me happy!!
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