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Disclaimer: None of this is financial advice. I have no idea what I'm doing. Please do your own research or you will certainly lose money. I'm not a statistician, data scientist, well-seasoned trader, or anything else that would qualify me to make statements such as the below with any weight behind them. Take them for the incoherent ramblings that they are. TL;DR at the bottom for those not interested in the details. This is a bit of a novel, sorry about that. It was mostly for getting my own thoughts organized, but if even one person reads the whole thing I will feel incredibly accomplished.
Background
For those of you not familiar, please see the various threads on this trading system here. I can't take credit for this system, all glory goes to ParallaxFX! I wanted to see how effective this system was at H1 for a couple of reasons: 1) My current broker is TD Ameritrade - their Forex minimum is a mini lot, and I don't feel comfortable enough yet with the risk to trade mini lots on the higher timeframes(i.e. wider pip swings) that ParallaxFX's system uses, so I wanted to see if I could scale it down. 2) I'm fairly impatient, so I don't like to wait days and days with my capital tied up just to see if a trade is going to win or lose. This does mean it requires more active attention since you are checking for setups once an hour instead of once a day or every 4-6 hours, but the upside is that you trade more often this way so you end up winning or losing faster and moving onto the next trade. Spread does eat more of the trade this way, but I'll cover this in my data below - it ends up not being a problem. I looked at data from 6/11 to 7/3 on all pairs with a reasonable spread(pairs listed at bottom above the TL;DR). So this represents about 3-4 weeks' worth of trading. I used mark(mid) price charts. Spreadsheet link is below for anyone that's interested.
System Details
I'm pretty much using ParallaxFX's system textbook, but since there are a few options in his writeups, I'll include all the discretionary points here:
I'm using the stop entry version - so I wait for the price to trade beyond the confirmation candle(in the direction of my trade) before entering. I don't have any data to support this decision, but I've always preferred this method over retracement-limit entries. Maybe I just like the feeling of a higher winrate even though there can be greater R:R using a limit entry. Variety is the spice of life.
I put my stop loss right at the opposite edge of the confirmation candle. NOT at the edge of the 2-candle pattern that makes up the system. I'll get into this more below - not enough trades are saved to justify the wider stops. (Wider stop means less $ per pip won, assuming you still only risk 1%).
All my profit/loss statistics are based on a 1% risk per trade. Because 1 is real easy to multiply.
There are definitely some questionable trades in here, but I tried to make it as mechanical as possible for evaluation purposes. They do fit the definitions of the system, which is why I included them. You could probably improve the winrate by being more discretionary about your trades by looking at support/resistance or other techniques.
I didn't use MBB much for either entering trades, or as support/resistance indicators. Again, trying to be pretty mechanical here just for data collection purposes. Plus, we all make bad trading decisions now and then, so let's call it even.
As stated in the title, this is for H1 only. These results may very well not play out for other time frames - who knows, it may not even work on H1 starting this Monday. Forex is an unpredictable place.
I collected data to show efficacy of taking profit at three different levels: -61.8%, -100% and -161.8% fib levels described in the system using the passive trade management method(set it and forget it). I'll have more below about moving up stops and taking off portions of a position.
And now for the fun. Results!
Total Trades: 241
Raw Winrates:
TP at -61.8%: 177 out of 241: 73.44%
TP at -100%: 156 out of 241: 64.73%
TP at -161.8%: 121 out of 241: 50.20%
Adjusted Proft % (takes spread into account):
TP at -61.8%: 5.22%
TP at -100%: 23.55%
TP at -161.8%: 29.14%
As you can see, a higher target ended up with higher profit despite a much lower winrate. This is partially just how things work out with profit targets in general, but there's an additional point to consider in our case: the spread. Since we are trading on a lower timeframe, there is less overall price movement and thus the spread takes up a much larger percentage of the trade than it would if you were trading H4, Daily or Weekly charts. You can see exactly how much it accounts for each trade in my spreadsheet if you're interested. TDA does not have the best spreads, so you could probably improve these results with another broker. EDIT: I grabbed typical spreads from other brokers, and turns out while TDA is pretty competitive on majors, their minors/crosses are awful! IG beats them by 20-40% and Oanda beats them 30-60%! Using IG spreads for calculations increased profits considerably (another 5% on top) and Oanda spreads increased profits massively (another 15%!). Definitely going to be considering another broker than TDA for this strategy. Plus that'll allow me to trade micro-lots, so I can be more granular(and thus accurate) with my position sizing and compounding.
A Note on Spread
As you can see in the data, there were scenarios where the spread was 80% of the overall size of the trade(the size of the confirmation candle that you draw your fibonacci retracements over), which would obviously cut heavily into your profits. Removing any trades where the spread is more than 50% of the trade width improved profits slightly without removing many trades, but this is almost certainly just coincidence on a small sample size. Going below 40% and even down to 30% starts to cut out a lot of trades for the less-common pairs, but doesn't actually change overall profits at all(~1% either way). However, digging all the way down to 25% starts to really make some movement. Profit at the -161.8% TP level jumps up to 37.94% if you filter out anything with a spread that is more than 25% of the trade width! And this even keeps the sample size fairly large at 187 total trades. You can get your profits all the way up to 48.43% at the -161.8% TP level if you filter all the way down to only trades where spread is less than 15% of the trade width, however your sample size gets much smaller at that point(108 trades) so I'm not sure I would trust that as being accurate in the long term. Overall based on this data, I'm going to only take trades where the spread is less than 25% of the trade width. This may bias my trades more towards the majors, which would mean a lot more correlated trades as well(more on correlation below), but I think it is a reasonable precaution regardless.
Time of Day
Time of day had an interesting effect on trades. In a totally predictable fashion, a vast majority of setups occurred during the London and New York sessions: 5am-12pm Eastern. However, there was one outlier where there were many setups on the 11PM bar - and the winrate was about the same as the big hours in the London session. No idea why this hour in particular - anyone have any insight? That's smack in the middle of the Tokyo/Sydney overlap, not at the open or close of either. On many of the hour slices I have a feeling I'm just dealing with small number statistics here since I didn't have a lot of data when breaking it down by individual hours. But here it is anyway - for all TP levels, these three things showed up(all in Eastern time):
7pm-4am: Fewer setups, but winrate high.
5am-6am: Lots of setups, but but winrate low.
12pm-3pm Medium number of setups, but winrate low.
I don't have any reason to think these timeframes would maintain this behavior over the long term. They're almost certainly meaningless. EDIT: When you de-dup highly correlated trades, the number of trades in these timeframes really drops, so from this data there is no reason to think these timeframes would be any different than any others in terms of winrate. That being said, these time frames work out for me pretty well because I typically sleep 12am-7am Eastern time. So I automatically avoid the 5am-6am timeframe, and I'm awake for the majority of this system's setups.
Moving stops up to breakeven
This section goes against everything I know and have ever heard about trade management. Please someone find something wrong with my data. I'd love for someone to check my formulas, but I realize that's a pretty insane time commitment to ask of a bunch of strangers. Anyways. What I found was that for these trades moving stops up...basically at all...actually reduced the overall profitability. One of the data points I collected while charting was where the price retraced back to after hitting a certain milestone. i.e. once the price hit the -61.8% profit level, how far back did it retrace before hitting the -100% profit level(if at all)? And same goes for the -100% profit level - how far back did it retrace before hitting the -161.8% profit level(if at all)? Well, some complex excel formulas later and here's what the results appear to be. Emphasis on appears because I honestly don't believe it. I must have done something wrong here, but I've gone over it a hundred times and I can't find anything out of place.
Moving SL up to 0% when the price hits -61.8%, TP at -100%
Winrate: 46.4%
Adjusted Proft % (takes spread into account): 5.36%
Taking half position off at -61.8%, moving SL up to 0%, TP remaining half at -100%
Winrate: 65.97%
Adjusted Proft % (takes spread into account): -1.01% (yes, a net loss)
Now, you might think exactly what I did when looking at these numbers: oof, the spread killed us there right? Because even when you move your SL to 0%, you still end up paying the spread, so it's not truly "breakeven". And because we are trading on a lower timeframe, the spread can be pretty hefty right? Well even when I manually modified the data so that the spread wasn't subtracted(i.e. "Breakeven" was truly +/- 0), things don't look a whole lot better, and still way worse than the passive trade management method of leaving your stops in place and letting it run. And that isn't even a realistic scenario because to adjust out the spread you'd have to move your stoploss inside the candle edge by at least the spread amount, meaning it would almost certainly be triggered more often than in the data I collected(which was purely based on the fib levels and mark price). Regardless, here are the numbers for that scenario:
Moving SL up to 0% when the price hits -61.8%, TP at -100%
Winrate(breakeven doesn't count as a win): 46.4%
Adjusted Proft % (takes spread into account): 17.97%
Taking half position off at -61.8%, moving SL up to 0%, TP remaining half at -100%
Winrate(breakeven doesn't count as a win): 65.97%
Adjusted Proft % (takes spread into account): 11.60%
From a literal standpoint, what I see behind this behavior is that 44 of the 69 breakeven trades(65%!) ended up being profitable to -100% after retracing deeply(but not to the original SL level), which greatly helped offset the purely losing trades better than the partial profit taken at -61.8%. And 36 went all the way back to -161.8% after a deep retracement without hitting the original SL. Anyone have any insight into this? Is this a problem with just not enough data? It seems like enough trades that a pattern should emerge, but again I'm no expert. I also briefly looked at moving stops to other lower levels (78.6%, 61.8%, 50%, 38.2%, 23.6%), but that didn't improve things any. No hard data to share as I only took a quick look - and I still might have done something wrong overall. The data is there to infer other strategies if anyone would like to dig in deep(more explanation on the spreadsheet below). I didn't do other combinations because the formulas got pretty complicated and I had already answered all the questions I was looking to answer.
2-Candle vs Confirmation Candle Stops
Another interesting point is that the original system has the SL level(for stop entries) just at the outer edge of the 2-candle pattern that makes up the system. Out of pure laziness, I set up my stops just based on the confirmation candle. And as it turns out, that is much a much better way to go about it. Of the 60 purely losing trades, only 9 of them(15%) would go on to be winners with stops on the 2-candle formation. Certainly not enough to justify the extra loss and/or reduced profits you are exposing yourself to in every single other trade by setting a wider SL. Oddly, in every single scenario where the wider stop did save the trade, it ended up going all the way to the -161.8% profit level. Still, not nearly worth it.
Correlated Trades
As I've said many times now, I'm really not qualified to be doing an analysis like this. This section in particular. Looking at shared currency among the pairs traded, 74 of the trades are correlated. Quite a large group, but it makes sense considering the sort of moves we're looking for with this system. This means you are opening yourself up to more risk if you were to trade on every signal since you are technically trading with the same underlying sentiment on each different pair. For example, GBP/USD and AUD/USD moving together almost certainly means it's due to USD moving both pairs, rather than GBP and AUD both moving the same size and direction coincidentally at the same time. So if you were to trade both signals, you would very likely win or lose both trades - meaning you are actually risking double what you'd normally risk(unless you halve both positions which can be a good option, and is discussed in ParallaxFX's posts and in various other places that go over pair correlation. I won't go into detail about those strategies here). Interestingly though, 17 of those apparently correlated trades ended up with different wins/losses. Also, looking only at trades that were correlated, winrate is 83%/70%/55% (for the three TP levels). Does this give some indication that the same signal on multiple pairs means the signal is stronger? That there's some strong underlying sentiment driving it? Or is it just a matter of too small a sample size? The winrate isn't really much higher than the overall winrates, so that makes me doubt it is statistically significant. One more funny tidbit: EUCAD netted the lowest overall winrate: 30% to even the -61.8% TP level on 10 trades. Seems like that is just a coincidence and not enough data, but dang that's a sucky losing streak. EDIT: WOW I spent some time removing correlated trades manually and it changed the results quite a bit. Some thoughts on this below the results. These numbers also include the other "What I will trade" filters. I added a new worksheet to my data to show what I ended up picking.
Total Trades: 75
Raw Winrates:
TP at -61.8%: 84.00%
TP at -100%: 73.33%
TP at -161.8%: 60.00%
Moving SL up to 0% when the price hits -61.8%, TP at -100%: 53.33%
Taking half position off at -61.8%, moving SL up to 0%, TP remaining half at -100%: 53.33% (yes, oddly the exact same winrate. but different trades/profits)
Adjusted Proft % (takes spread into account):
TP at -61.8%: 18.13%
TP at -100%: 26.20%
TP at -161.8%: 34.01%
Moving SL up to 0% when the price hits -61.8%, TP at -100%: 19.20%
Taking half position off at -61.8%, moving SL up to 0%, TP remaining half at -100%: 17.29%
To do this, I removed correlated trades - typically by choosing those whose spread had a lower % of the trade width since that's objective and something I can see ahead of time. Obviously I'd like to only keep the winning trades, but I won't know that during the trade. This did reduce the overall sample size down to a level that I wouldn't otherwise consider to be big enough, but since the results are generally consistent with the overall dataset, I'm not going to worry about it too much. I may also use more discretionary methods(support/resistance, quality of indecision/confirmation candles, news/sentiment for the pairs involved, etc) to filter out correlated trades in the future. But as I've said before I'm going for a pretty mechanical system. This brought the 3 TP levels and even the breakeven strategies much closer together in overall profit. It muted the profit from the high R:R strategies and boosted the profit from the low R:R strategies. This tells me pair correlation was skewing my data quite a bit, so I'm glad I dug in a little deeper. Fortunately my original conclusion to use the -161.8 TP level with static stops is still the winner by a good bit, so it doesn't end up changing my actions. There were a few times where MANY (6-8) correlated pairs all came up at the same time, so it'd be a crapshoot to an extent. And the data showed this - often then won/lost together, but sometimes they did not. As an arbitrary rule, the more correlations, the more trades I did end up taking(and thus risking). For example if there were 3-5 correlations, I might take the 2 "best" trades given my criteria above. 5+ setups and I might take the best 3 trades, even if the pairs are somewhat correlated. I have no true data to back this up, but to illustrate using one example: if AUD/JPY, AUD/USD, CAD/JPY, USD/CAD all set up at the same time (as they did, along with a few other pairs on 6/19/20 9:00 AM), can you really say that those are all the same underlying movement? There are correlations between the different correlations, and trying to filter for that seems rough. Although maybe this is a known thing, I'm still pretty green to Forex - someone please enlighten me if so! I might have to look into this more statistically, but it would be pretty complex to analyze quantitatively, so for now I'm going with my gut and just taking a few of the "best" trades out of the handful. Overall, I'm really glad I went further on this. The boosting of the B/E strategies makes me trust my calculations on those more since they aren't so far from the passive management like they were with the raw data, and that really had me wondering what I did wrong.
What I will trade
Putting all this together, I am going to attempt to trade the following(demo for a bit to make sure I have the hang of it, then for keeps):
"System Details" I described above.
TP at -161.8%
Static SL at opposite side of confirmation candle - I won't move stops up to breakeven.
Trade only 7am-11am and 4pm-11pm signals.
Nothing where spread is more than 25% of trade width.
Looking at the data for these rules, test results are:
Winrate: 58.19%
Adjusted Proft % (takes spread into account): 47.43%
I'll be sure to let everyone know how it goes!
Other Technical Details
ATR is only slightly elevated in this date range from historical levels, so this should fairly closely represent reality even after the COVID volatility leaves the scalpers sad and alone.
The sample size is much too small for anything really meaningful when you slice by hour or pair. I wasn't particularly looking to test a specific pair here - just the system overall as if you were going to trade it on all pairs with a reasonable spread.
Raw Data
Here's the spreadsheet for anyone that'd like it. (EDIT: Updated some of the setups from the last few days that have fully played out now. I also noticed a few typos, but nothing major that would change the overall outcomes. Regardless, I am currently reviewing every trade to ensure they are accurate.UPDATE: Finally all done. Very few corrections, no change to results.) I have some explanatory notes below to help everyone else understand the spiraled labyrinth of a mind that put the spreadsheet together.
I'm on the East Coast in the US, so the timestamps are Eastern time.
Time stamp is from the confirmation candle, not the indecision candle. So 7am would mean the indecision candle was 6:00-6:59 and the confirmation candle is 7:00-7:59 and you'd put in your order at 8:00.
I found a couple AM/PM typos as I was reviewing the data, so let me know if a trade doesn't make sense and I'll correct it.
Insanely detailed spreadsheet notes
For you real nerds out there. Here's an explanation of what each column means:
Pair - duh
Date/Time - Eastern time, confirmation candle as stated above
Win to -61.8%? - whether the trade made it to the -61.8% TP level before it hit the original SL.
Win to -100%? - whether the trade made it to the -100% TP level before it hit the original SL.
Win to -161.8%? - whether the trade made it to the -161.8% TP level before it hit the original SL.
Retracement level between -61.8% and -100% - how deep the price retraced after hitting -61.8%, but before hitting -100%. Be careful to look for the negative signs, it's easy to mix them up. Using the fib% levels defined in ParallaxFX's original thread. A plain hyphen "-" means it did not retrace, but rather went straight through -61.8% to -100%. Positive 100 means it hit the original SL.
Retracement level between -100% and -161.8% - how deep the price retraced after hitting -100%, but before hitting -161.8%. Be careful to look for the negative signs, it's easy to mix them up. Using the fib% levels defined in ParallaxFX's original thread. A plain hyphen "-" means it did not retrace, but rather went straight through -100% to -161.8%. Positive 100 means it hit the original SL.
Trade Width(Pips) - the size of the confirmation candle, and thus the "width" of your trade on which to determine position size, draw fib levels, etc.
Loser saved by 2 candle stop? - for all losing trades, whether or not the 2-candle stop loss would have saved the trade and how far it ended up getting if so. "No" means it didn't save it, N/A means it wasn't a losing trade so it's not relevant.
Spread(ThinkorSwim) - these are typical spreads for these pairs on ToS.
Spread % of Width - How big is the spread compared to the trade width? Not used in any calculations, but interesting nonetheless.
True Risk(Trade Width + Spread) - I set my SL at the opposite side of the confirmation candle knowing that I'm actually exposing myself to slightly more risk because of the spread(stop order = market order when submitted, so you pay the spread). So this tells you how many pips you are actually risking despite the Trade Width. I prefer this over setting the stop inside from the edge of the candle because some pairs have a wide spread that would mess with the system overall. But also many, many of these trades retraced very nearly to the edge of the confirmation candle, before ending up nicely profitable. If you keep your risk per trade at 1%, you're talking a true risk of, at most, 1.25% (in worst-case scenarios with the spread being 25% of the trade width as I am going with above).
Win or Loss in %(1% risk) including spread TP -61.8% - not going to go into huge detail, see the spreadsheet for calculations if you want. But, in a nutshell, if the trade was a win to 61.8%, it returns a positive # based on 61.8% of the trade width, minus the spread. Otherwise, it returns the True Risk as a negative. Both normalized to the 1% risk you started with.
Win or Loss in %(1% risk) including spread TP -100% - same as the last, but 100% of Trade Width.
Win or Loss in %(1% risk) including spread TP -161.8% - same as the last, but 161.8% of Trade Width.
Win or Loss in %(1% risk) including spread TP -100%, and move SL to breakeven at 61.8% - uses the retracement level columns to calculate profit/loss the same as the last few columns, but assuming you moved SL to 0% fib level after price hit -61.8%. Then full TP at 100%.
Win or Loss in %(1% risk) including spread take off half of position at -61.8%, move SL to breakeven, TP 100% - uses the retracement level columns to calculate profit/loss the same as the last few columns, but assuming you took of half the position and moved SL to 0% fib level after price hit -61.8%. Then TP the remaining half at 100%.
Overall Growth(-161.8% TP, 1% Risk) - pretty straightforward. Assuming you risked 1% on each trade, what the overall growth level would be chronologically(spreadsheet is sorted by date).
Pairs
AUD/CAD
AUD/CHF
AUD/JPY
AUD/NZD
AUD/USD
CAD/CHF
CAD/JPY
CHF/JPY
EUAUD
EUCAD
EUCHF
EUGBP
EUJPY
EUNZD
EUUSD
GBP/AUD
GBP/CAD
GBP/CHF
GBP/JPY
GBP/NZD
GBP/USD
NZD/CAD
NZD/CHF
NZD/JPY
NZD/USD
USD/CAD
USD/CHF
USD/JPY
TL;DR
Based on the reasonable rules I discovered in this backtest:
Date range: 6/11-7/3
Winrate: 58.19%
Adjusted Proft % (takes spread into account): 47.43%
Demo Trading Results
Since this post, I started demo trading this system assuming a 5k capital base and risking ~1% per trade. I've added the details to my spreadsheet for anyone interested. The results are pretty similar to the backtest when you consider real-life conditions/timing are a bit different. I missed some trades due to life(work, out of the house, etc), so that brought my total # of trades and thus overall profit down, but the winrate is nearly identical. I also closed a few trades early due to various reasons(not liking the price action, seeing support/resistance emerge, etc). A quick note is that TD's paper trade system fills at the mid price for both stop and limit orders, so I had to subtract the spread from the raw trade values to get the true profit/loss amount for each trade. I'm heading out of town next week, then after that it'll be time to take this sucker live!
86 Trades
Date range: 7/9-7/30
Winrate: 52.32%
Adjusted Proft % (takes spread into account): 20.73%
Starting Balance: $5,000
Ending Balance: $6,036.51
Live Trading Results
I started live-trading this system on 8/10, and almost immediately had a string of losses much longer than either my backtest or demo period. Murphy's law huh? Anyways, that has me spooked so I'm doing a longer backtest before I start risking more real money. It's going to take me a little while due to the volume of trades, but I'll likely make a new post once I feel comfortable with that and start live trading again.
I’m new to forex, and I’m looking for a regulated US broker. After research, I found that OANDA complied with FIFO laws, and I was wondering if FIFO made it so I couldn’t close my positions in any order even if my positions are on different symbols (ex: open buy on USD/JPY at 1:00, open buy on EUUSD at 1:05, would I not be able to close EUUSD until I close USD/JPY?)
My writing is not great, so hang in there. Also, long post. On Feb 28 2020 I set up an account on Oanda to begin my Forex journey. A friend of mine got me into the idea, saying he has been working with his dad that does this fool* time and it's a great way to make money. "I'm no dumbo and follow wall-street bets" I says, but he assured me THIS was different. I did some basic research (youtube) and thought to myself, heck, it's money up or down. That's tight. I came into looking to make a little bit of money, not an astronomical amount. I have a full-time job and two kids, so I'm not looking to end up homeless. I started my account with $1k seed, and the plan was make the $1k seed money back, pull that out, and have new $1k to play with. I thought I would achieve this goal in perhaps two months time. Starting out the trades I have made has been conservative, in units of 300-500. The very first trade I made was EUJPY @ 100 units. I lost $0.40. It was magical. I had no idea what exactly was happening and the entire dashboard was crazy looking to me. I decided then that I really wanted to learn and I took seriously to the research that I was doing. I quickly found out that the news was a great tool in making market decisions. Looking at the history of currency pairs could also aid one in making informed decisions. At this moment I made my first self rule: Make informed and guesstimated trade decisions. I started to journal my trades and the ideas behind making these decisions. This gave me the feedback I needed when a trade went right or wrong for me. I could go back and understand why I did that, instead of just guessing. This also held me accountable for making informed decisions, going back to rule 1. Rule 2 came shortly after that. I was given a recommendation on a pair to go long on a pair. I looked at the data and my head said nah, don't do that. But I thought to myself, well his dad has been doing this fool* time so let's go for it. Big mistake there. That was my first true loss. Up until this point I had only taken small losses in the form of cents. This was my first double digit loss. It hurt, but not a whole lot. Rule 2: Don't blindly follow. Make your own decisions. Two weeks have gone by and I had made $1000.00! I got my seed money back! I was feeling good and put in my first big order, 10,000 units short on USD/JPY. BIG HIT of $300+. I was sky high. I did it again alllllll the way at the bottom of what I just closed at. The next morning was rude to me. I woke up with -$400 going against me. I panicked and took the L and started panic buying trying just to make up a little bit of lost cash. I kept digging myself deeper. At the end of the day I lost around $500. I took a day or two off from that and I made my third rule: Don't panic sell or buy. I regained my composure and studied what I felt and why I reacted the way I did. To understand that the market can move against you is fine, and if I had stuck to rule 1 of informed trades, I would have been fine. Shortly after I had a 60.000 unit USD/CAD long hit -$800. This time I did not panic and I continued about my business. That ended up being on of the most profitable trades I have had, all thanks to Rule 3: Don't panic. My last (so far) rule was born from the deadly sin of greed. That bastard; he was hard to kill. Seeing those dollar signs go up, up, up and way is so exciting. And then physics happens. Too often have I found myself in the situation of being able to make the same trade multiple times just because of the swing. This doesn't happen all the time and you can't really know if it is going to happen, but sometimes it's pretty easy to see. Rule 4: Take the profit. Now, I sell when I feel like I need to sell. If my gut says end it, I end it. I don't have remorse if I end a trade early. I came out with money I never had and I didn't lose money I never had either. Win/Win. It is now 2 days away from being a month since I started trading. In that amount of time I have ended up with a Realized P/L of $3,036.55 at the time of writing this post. I am not writing this to brag or to look for high-fives and pats on the back. I am not naive that all of this can go very wrong with one click of a button. But I am proud of myself and at the fact that perhaps this could become my side-hustle in conjunction with my full-time job. I am still making rules for myself and still have a lot to learn. Happy trading, space cowboy.
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Introducing the newest brand of full-blown autism™, I present to you the California / Europe ultimate bear portfolio! Based on a special blend of my extra chromosomes and a spicy mix of hate for California, this portfolio will blow average market returns out of the water based on the following assumptions (Cetaris Paribus):
The world will enter a large economic recession within the next 12 months.
Many Currency values will fall relative to others, however the Euro will be hit among the hardest.
As unprofitable companies no longer have access to liquid credit or financing they will have to restructure their debt in some form.
The highest density of unprofitable companies will continue to exist in California, and local California municipalities will not plan accordingly for a recession.
European markets in general will fall quicker and with more momentum than US equity markets.
Feedback and thoughts requested please.
Symbol & Exchange
Description
Instrument
Position
Strategy Allocation (%)
CHF/EUR FOREX ICE
Swiss Frank vs Euro Currency Pair
Currency Pair
Long
10
6EH2021 CME
Euro Futures March 2021
Futures Contract
Short
10
FXE NYSEARCA
Invesco Currency Shares Euro Currency ETF
ETF 15JAN 2021 $98 Strike Put Contract
Long
10
GBP/EUR FOREX ICE
Pound Sterling vs Euro Currency Pair
Currency Pair
Long
15
USD/EUR FOREX ICE
U.S. Dollar vs Euro Currency Pair
Currency Pair
Long
5
CMF NYSEARCA
California Municipal Bond ETF
ETF
Short
5
PZA NYSEARCA
Invesco Nation AMT-Free Muni Bond ETF
ETF
Short
5
AUD/USD FOREX OANDA
Australian Dollar vs U.S. Dollar Currency Pair
Currency Pair
Long
5
EZU BATS
iShares MSCI Eurozone ETF
ETF 15MAY2020 $37 Strike Put Contract
Long
15
GDX NYSEARCA
VanEck Vectors Gold Miners ETF
ETF 15JAN2021 $35 Strike Call Contract
Long
20
Edit: Typo, wrote put instead of call for GDX. Shame tables don't copy over from word / excel and you have to retype yourself.
Brand new to forex, after messing around with stocks and ETFs for a year on robinhood. In trying to learn about this strange new world, seemingly every article warns me that trading forex is the fastest route to poverty, that I'll lose every dime I have and that I'm better off buying lottery tickets, UNLESS I have a risk management plan. That's all good and well, but it seems hard to find suggestions on how to actually manage my risk. So far what I have found is either unconvincing, or I just flat don't understand what is being explained. So I've landed here. Reading the Forex FAQ, in this sub, the advice is to use a very small amount of capital when starting off, and practice live trading from there. If then recommends a formula to use in order to calculate risk, which seems like quite a bit of running calculations for every single trade that I make. Is it really the case that every Forex Trader that manages risk runs a series of calculations for each and every trade in order to figure out pip value and leverage amount, such matter and what have you? Second problem, before even getting to the risk management section of this Subs FAQ, I'm told to read The Beginner's Guide on baby Pips. Babypips says that when you first start off trading you should not start small because then you will never be able to weather times of drawdown. They recommend something like an initial deposit of $20,000 or 50,000, and saying that if you don't have that much then build up your savings and come back the Forex when you have that to drop into the market. Are you kidding me? My original plan before reading either of those guides was to deposit $300 and use something like a 10 to 1 or 20 to 1 Leverage. The part that I'm hung up on which really baffles me and I need some help understanding is everywhere seems to say that I should only risk one or 2% of my account. I don't really understand what that means. My trading app, OandA allows me to set default trade settings. One of them is trade size, which I can select an option "%Lev NAV" In all of my general Trading I have kept this number at 100, assuming that it is simply using 100% of my account for each trade. I am also using a system in order to Define very specific entry points with a one-to-one risk reward ratio, setting a stop loss and take profit Target, usually between 9 and 60 Pips in size, depending on the instrument. Thus far, each trade that I have won usually amounts to a 3 to 8% change in the demo account value, which seems comprable to what I was experiencing with stocks and ETFs back on Robinhood. For the last 4 trades I've made, I'm up 15%. Do I need to adjust this % Lev NAV down to 1% instead of 100? Or do I really need to download a pip value calculator app and make a determination after solving some arithmetic? I just can't seem to figure this out, and different sources use the same words interchangeably yet differently. When risking 1% of my account, does that include leverage, or not, in the trade? And if the most anyone recommends to risk in a trade is 1-2% then why use leverage at all? Won't the returns on 1% be so small as to be negligible? I don't seem to understand how it could possibly be Worth while to spend all that time trading... 1℅ of $300 is three bucks. As I understand it, that would allow me to buy 2 units of the EUUSD... there's no way that could be right, right? Thanks for your patience and for reading this whole, chapter-length, question of a post. I look forward to some clarity. I don't know how to switch to live trading, and the demo account does nothing to simulate leverage.
Came across couple threads on here about people discussing SL hunting Market Makers and quite a few said that all this is baloney... Since its Friday and I just finished analyzing the screws ups of the week, I decided to write a short post about the matter from my experience as my PERSONAL opinion. To begin with, Stock Trading and Options communities have a general consensus that some kind of 'shady activities' occur. It's actually almost a mainstream idea, thanks to movies like Wolf of Wallstreet and people like Musky with his 'funding secured'. Along with countless other charged and non charged insider trading individuals and entities. I imagine I don’t have to explain the ‘crypto’ market a place where they actually run ads to join a group and then pump and dump some shitty coin. Anyway enough of other folks, lets move on to Forex. To cut it simply, Banks have already been caught red handed collaborating in chat rooms on how to manipulate the price to their advantage. (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-banks-forex-settlement-idUSKBN0O50CQ20150520) So this should answer your question if there WAS Market Maker who moved markets.... Yes there was and its not some conspiracy theory, they've been found, charged, fined. Its up to you to decide if this is still going on or just stopped overnight. Do these people SL hunt your individual positions? No, but what they do is seek liquidity... Chances are, you have placed SL after your usual textbook analysis at a major support/resistance as many other retailers... Experienced Whale traders at CITI, JP etc know where you have these SL. They also know where you most likely placed your pending buy/sell with tight SL. All they have to do is drive the price enough to take out all of the above and stopped out positions will fuel their direction... Combine that with creation of some 'other pattern' and you have bunch of other people jumping on the train going same directions as the institutional trader. Job done. Now onto the Brokers. From my experience, there is no such thing as a good Market Maker Broker... Yes there are absolute awful unregulated ones with dealing desk where you will most likely never withdraw any profits and some not so bad ones like Oanda, Forex without a dealing desk. Ask how Oanda, Forex.com make their money... They will tell you its by spreads... Open up Oanda and check out average spreads and go to 'maximum' ... You will see some rather crazy spreads during news that if you ever traded on ECN would seem alien to you... Same goes to Rollover... Its up to you to decide if these things are just because Oanda and Gain have liquidity providers that are extremely in-flexible or..... Lets not go far for a recent example, just open up EUUSD 1Minute chart of todays closing. ECN broker closed today at 1.6220 vs 1.6225 aka 0.5 pip spread and thats as high as the price went in last closing minutes... Spread did not jump anywhere much really - I was there to watch it. Now lets open up Oanda chart on Tradingview... What do we see here? A spike to 1.16262 on last minute - now lets go and check Oandas maximum spread at this exact time, we find that it is exactly 6 pips. Lets look at the chart again and think where a small time 'retail trader' that trades on small TF's would put their SL. Probably at 1.16254, 1.16282, 1.16293 area and lastly (same as me) 1.16323 area... Neither one of these would have been hit if you traded with ECN Broker... All of these with exception of last one (would be a really close call) would have been hit by Oanda or Forex.com today. Again its up to you to decide if this is just because Gain and Oanda have such 'interesting' liquidity providers or a broker that makes money on spreads is... you know... making money on spreads... So here is my 2 cents... This again is my personal opinion.
Transitioning to forex from crypto: what fundamentals should I worry about? Any other suggestions?
Hello, Crypto can be quiet as hell sometimes and it's like squeezing blood from a stone with tiny moves. So, I've been doing Oanda demo using my pro Tradingview account. Only EUUSD so far but thinking of adding JPY, GBP, and CAD to my pairs since they're often recommended to beginners. Question- how much should I pay attention to FA? Do you guys typically open any currency/forex websites for news before trading, or do you trade blind? In crypto, I open up a chart, mark my levels, look for divergences, and am in a trade within minutes. Not sure if that's possible with forex though. Do you avoid trading at any times? Do you guys have any suggestions here, or on any other suggestions transitioning from crypto? It's been fine so far. Starting with $250 account to see how far I can build up while trading crypto for my income. Thanks.
So the general idea is that TD is an introducing broker to Gain (Forex.com) and it even says on the sticky info thread here. Thing is, I pulled up both live accounts and Forex.com and TD do NOT have same spreads. TD also has floating margin requirement that is not present on Forex.com. Right now there is 3% margin requirement on EUUSD while Forex.com has usual 2%. Forex.com usually has 1.2 - 1.5 pip spread on EU while TD majority of time is 09 to 1.0 pip spread. USDCAD spread is 0.2 - 0.4 pips worse on TD than Forex. So clearly there is some differences here. Meanwhile ATC is completely identical in everything to Oanda. So what is TD ameritrade??
Exploiting forex arbitrage opportunities using cryptocurrency?
Hi all, I had an interesting thought this morning and would like to get some feedback on the idea. Say I bought 1 unit of some crypto at a price of USD$100 and then saw that the Euro price was EUR€85. This would represent a EUUSD exchange rate of 1.1764, while the actual exchange rate (at the time of this post) is 1.1811; from what I understand, this is a fairly sizable spread in forex. If I then went from crypto to EUR, I would have effectively bought into EUR at this lower exchange rate and made some money on arbitrage. My plan ATM is to create a package in python that would scan through a list of crypto exchanges, returning a list of the most favorable exchange rates for USD/X (X could be GBP, JPY, EUR, whatever). It would also be connected to Oanda, comparing these currency pairs to determine if there is an arbitrage opportunity. If so, a USD -> Crypto -> X trade would be executed on the crypto exchange, then an X -> USD trade would be executed on Oanda Is there something I'm missing here? Part of me thinks that adding the extra element of forex is just overcomplicating things, so I wanted to get some feedback from you all. I also realize that transaction fees would cut into my profits, but large trades could deal with that issue somewhat. Thanks in advance for the help!
I'm thirsty to learn a new technical skill and trading is right up my alley. However, I'm doing my due dilligance and will be paper trading for a long time while I study, practice and educate myself. However the biggest question ultimately will be "What will I trade?" And I've narrowed it to E Mini S%P Futures or Forex. The attraction to both is a) Smaller capital requirements, meaning I can persue this as a hobby and keep the bankroll still at a 'fun' level (5k or so to start I'm expecting) b) Simplified analysis - what I mean by this is I don't want to be hunting for stocks, or companies and doing hours and hours of research and homework every morning and at night. I'm an obsessive guy and I'll 100% be the guy who can't put his ipad or laptop down because I'm still reading the latest business news. Going with Forex I can choose one single pair and just become an expert of it. Futures is the same thing in that the S&P is one chart. That's it. Simple. The time wasted hunting down company stock to swap can be used on working on a strong trading strategy, or refining my risk management technique. However, between the two I'm having a much harder time figuring out where to go with this. For the time being I'm relegated to web based platforms, so I'm likely going to try Oanda first since their web client is clean and quick. They offer all the big currency pairs, as well as the S&P E-Minis Futures board. If I went with Forex, the currency pairs of most interest are either EUUSD or USD/CAD. I'm not sure which way to go. Any tips or insight?
So I've been interested in trading for awhile. Dabbled in stocks, fx, and crypto in the past, but want to take it more seriously. I'm trying to decide on which market or product to focus on first. But, I'm currently living in Japan which severely limits what markets I can trade due to market open/close and time differences. Stocks are off the table. I've narrowed it down to: futures, forex, or crypto. I'm using http://forex.timezoneconverter.com/ as a reference Futures - Seems appealing given the basically 24/5 markets. But volume looks really low during off hours. NYSE open is around 9pm-5am local time, which does work well since I do have a day-job, but worry I may get stuck in a position for hours and lose a bunch of sleep. I like being able to focus on a single future, like the ES. Commissions are relatively low as well, with good leverage. Currently the most appealing option. Forex - Real 24 hour markets. Volumes are high almost all-around, and similar to futures can focus on a single pair such as USD/JPY or USD/EUR at the beginning. Unfortunately as a US person I'm not allowed to open accounts with many ECN brokers. Oanda seems like the only real option, but they are a MM. Anyway spreads/commissions are big here and dependent on the broker, and I can't seem to find any other good brokers for FX which allow US clients. Maybe I'm searching for the wrong things? Crypto - The dark horse. I would 100% be day trading crypto if: exchanges weren't crappy compared to real trading platforms, nor was I worried about hacking. Margin rates for shorting crypto also sucks, and given the current bear market it seems stupid to get into this only being able to trade long. Given my situation, what would you trade?
Couple questions around brokers and currency conversion
I've just been getting into trading forex. I've mostly been focusing on learning and back testing some different strategies. I haven't jumped the gun yet on trading live and had a couple questions on currency conversion and how brokers handle it. I plan on trading with Oanda. 1) If my account is using a base balance of CAD and I want to trade EUUSD, when I close a position will my broker automatically add/subtract my profit/loss to my account using my accounts base currency at the current exchange rate? If I'm using leverage, will the loans automatically close after a position has been closed? 2) I'm trying to write some automated back tests and realize that in order to correctly calculate my risk per trade at a given point in time, I need historical exchange rates. What APIs are typically used for this? One I've come across is fixer.io. I've noticed that Oanda has one, but it looks rather pricey. Thanks in advance.
Oanda is considered by many on /forex to be the best broker. Apart from all the pros, its spreads are extremely high relative to other legitimate brokers. I used Myfxbook to compare spreads. The brokers I compared are from this list. I used EUUSD as the independent variable. Oanda: 8.6 FXCM: 0.4 Forex.com: 5.6 Pepperstone: 1.0 Darwinex: 0.9 IC Markets: 0.9 Exness: 3.1 RoboForex: 7.7 Oanda has the highest spreads. 21.5x FXCM's spreads! I opened a demo account in Oanda, but after comparing their spreads to other brokers, I will probably not open a live account with them. Other legitimate brokers have smaller spreads, why open an account with Oanda?
I've started learning about ForEx about a week ago. Fundamentally, it makes sense, but I do have some questions regarding the practical side of things.
Suppose I've traded x USD for 100 EUR through Oanda. Do I now possess y EUR? As in, can I tell Oanda that I want 100 actual euros wired to my bank account? If this is the case, can Or is my ownership of the 100 EUR an abstraction?
Suppose the JPY is doing really well relative to EUR. I only have USD. Suppose the USD is tanking hard, relative to EUR but somewhat stable to JPY. I can trade USD for JPY, trade JPY for EUR, and then trade EUR for USD and make a gain in capital, granted the spreads work out. Is this correct or am I totally missing something?
Certain currencies are only traded in relation to one other currency on the ForEx (USD/RUB, for example). Is that right, or is there a way that I could trade RUB directly for EUR, for example?
Suppose I end up with a good amount of JPY, but the Yen begins to have a net fall for a week relative to all major currencies. Is it possible to take the Yen I have and use it to trade stock on the TYO until the currency begins to increase in value?
Thanks in advance! As I said, I'm very new to ForEx and I'd want to be crystal clear on the basics before I start to work on a demo account - I'm not even considering using live money at this point.
I started trading live recently, had a few nice results, here are my questions to you
Hi Everyone, I put $1200 on OANDA and have been making some trades, up $137 so far in about 4 weeks risking about $5-$30 dollars a trade. I realize this is some pretty lucky profit but I thought it was a good start. Here are a few questions I have: Has anyone had any luck shorting the dollar on one pair going long on another pair? I imagine this isolates the other pairs and the dollar positions wash minus the spread, but it sounds a little too tricky for me at this point. For traders in the US, have I blown my chance to elect a favorable tax election for 2015 trading year? the one where you get 60% capital gain and 40% long term gain? I trade the forex spot market. I also think that once you make an election you cannot change your election. For those of you who work the normal American business hours, what are your favorite pairs to trade and what hours do you trade them? Do you place your trades the night before and maybe check them once/twice per day? do you trade the EUUSD first thing in the morning? I imagine swing trading will be the most viable option for the working people. What are your favorite forex books or manual back testing softwares? I am currently reading Naked Forex... liking it so far. If anyone that is serious about becoming a solid trader wants to talk forex, PM me and we'll see about maybe skype session and see where it leads. Maybe a little group. Would love to hear from some fulltime traders or review someones trades and hear their thought processes - PM me. What are your favorite Broker's? Feel free to answer any that apply to you, thanks gents!
Hi All! I am currently learning about Forex at Babypips.com. There are a couple of questions on my mind that I would like to ask. There are some things I am still not sure about. I am currently learning about the technical aspect of it. I signed up for a Practice Account at Oanda. I am still very new to learning Forex so some of these questions are very basic, do bear with me. Thank you. 1) Margin: I understand that margin is the money you deposit to the broker to control a larger funds. My question is, I use a 10:1 margin. I deposited $1000, so I get to control $10,000. What if I lose all the "$10,000". Do I owe the broker (in my case Oanda), $9000? Since I am technically, "borrowing" the other amount. 2) Amount paid to broker: If I am understanding this correctly, Oanda earns from spread. For example, EUUSD 1.2920/1.2924 The spread is the difference, which is 0.0004. 4 Pips. Am I right? Supposed I buy 10,000 units of EUR. 10,000 x 1.2924 = $12,924 In this case, how do I find out how much am I going to pay the broker? 3) Is there an hidden fees incurred, if I hold on to one trade for a few days/weeks?
About to start trading for the first time. Anyone wanna talk?
I don't really have any specific questions, just looking for general advice. Well, maybe one...see the bottom. I've gone through most of the babypips school, and just finished reading Courtney Smith's book. I have somewhat of a bit of background in game theory due to hobbies (I was one of the better players in the country in the national tournament scene of a certain video game, and have close friends who have been ranked in chess and poker who I have been playing with and learned a lot of game theory from), and tend to prefer boring, "turtle" strategies. I considered scalping, but I don't think it will fit my lifestyle (time consuming). So, I'm probably going to look at position trading the daily charts, and I'll start mostly with the methods from the book I was reading. I want to be as disciplined as possible- picking entry/exit points before entering the trade, doing as much of it automatically via stops as possible (which I will look at and adjust only according to TA), and looking at my positions once per day. No emotion. On a long flight yesterday I finally sat down and wrote up a trading plan, buying on a few techniques, all of which have set stops. I'll calculate my position size so that if I am stopped out (stops based on technical analysis) I will lose 1% of my account value. This also means that positions with wide stops will not be very profitable. I will write down every trade and what signal I used to make the trade. Every thirty trades, I'll eliminate my worst-performing signal and replace it with a different one, and see how I do. I did some backtesting on EUUSD over the first few months of 2009. Trading on inside days seemed profitable, as well as reversal days. Channel breakouts were iffy...I used the ADX filter to exit, and that let me exit at really good times, but because the stops were too wide (for long position, I was buying at 55 day high breakout and setting stop to 20-day low breakout) I was barely making any money off of it and that was wiped out by the bad trades. I need to figure out where I can place tighter stops on Channel Breakouts without removing too many winning trades. My biggest concern is that inside days seemed too consistent...I usually made almost as much money as I was risking on my stop every time I did it, barring one or two times where I basically broke even. Seems like a couple losing trades could've set me back pretty quickly and I should be seeing more. I should probably do more backtesting, but I feel a trial by fire would work better. I'll probably just set the risk to 0.5% instead of 1% and start a very small account and see how it does (I'd have to lose hundreds of trades in a row to get wiped out). Am I doing this right? And, the real question- what broker should I use? Right now I'm looking at Oanda. I saw a poster saying good things about IB and I'd rather use Ninjatrader because I hate MT 4, so I might look at shifting over to them when I have more money, but I don't have $25k liquid cash available to open an account with them. Oanda's flexibility with position size seems ideal for my ~1% risk on stop plan. However, the more I read about Forex brokers, the more nervous I get...they seem to make money when you lose and engage in all kinds of unscrupulous tactics like stop-hunting, slippage failing to trigger stops, and raising the spreads during big moves. Feels more like playing against the house than trading. This alone makes me feel tempted to go trade stock options instead with the same plan and see if that works. Thoughts?
Please excuse the beginner question, I'm a professional developer trying to ascertain if my particular skill set lends itself towards forex trading. Some questions I've not been able to answer from my searching so far. If I setup an account with say Oanda, and my base currency is in USD, if I place an order for EUR / GBP, it appears to let me place that order. I assume that to do so, it is first making a market trade between UDS / EUR, and when I close my trade it does the reverse and I absorb the spread. Additionally, if I wanted to trade EUR / GBP, but rather than making that happen via USD -> EUR -> GBP, I wanted to take a route like USD -> CAD -> EUR -> GBP, is that at all possible for me to execute? Thanks in advance for your patience and expertise.
I've recently begun studying forex trading. I opened a practice account with oanda and was funded $100,000, which with their 2% margin rate would require a $2,000 deposit from the investor? I sold a large amount units of EUUSD (I realize this was a very unrealistic/foolish investment for my amount of capital, but I just wanted to see how it would move) Well I got lucky and it dropped about 50 pips for a $5,000 profit. My balance now shows about $105,000usd. My question is, do I hold a 2% share of the 105,000, leaving me with an actual profit of $100 or is the profit solely mine and I now possess $7,000. Thanks
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