Thanks to everyone who filled out the survey! I was hoping to get some insight into what's bringing people here and how we can improve, and I think we mostly met that goal! You can go on a deep dive into the results below. In general, people come here because of the sense of community and how nice everyone is. Ways we can improve: more engagement with each other and with the band (I lost count of how many people asked for Rian's AMA lol). The mods will work on what we want to do with some of these ideas and go from there. 81 people filled out the survey. Last year, we had 65 responses. I linked the results to the last survey, but I have not yet gone through to see what's similar and what's different. Disclaimer #1: Some comments were lightly edited for clarify or spelling. Disclaimer #2: Next time I think I want to do a survey, someone please remind me how much freaking work it is to put all the data together. Disclaimer #3: My comments are in bold, as are the top selections for each category. I was a little sassy. Reminder: There are controversial opinions about the band and normal song opinions. You're welcome to respond to anything but remember to be nice and respectful. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and mostly everyone is here because of how welcoming the community is.
Demographics
Gender
Male: 27 people / 33%
Female: 4 people / 58%
Non-Binary: 7 people / 9%
Location
US: 47 people / 58%
Europe: 2 people / 3%
UK: 12 people / 15%
Asia: 5 people / 6%
South America: 2 people / 3%
Australia: 5 people / 6%
Canada: 5 people / 6%
Northern Ireland: 2 people / 3%(1 person was born in Ireland and now resides in Northern Ireland)
New Zealand: 1 person / 1%
State (if in US)
Alabama: 2 people
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California: 4 people
Colorado: 1 person
Connecticut: 1 person
Delaware
Florida: 1 person
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois 1 person
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky: 1 person
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland: 2 people
Massachusetts: 2 people
Michigan
Minnesota: 1 person
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska: 1 person
Nevada
New Hampshire: 3 people
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York: 5 people
North Carolina: 3 people
North Dakota
Ohio: 6 people
Oklahoma
Oregon: 1 person
Pennsylvania: 4 people
Rhode Island
South Carolina: 1 person
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas: 3 people
Utah
Vermont
Virginia: 1 person
Washington
West Virginia: 1 person
Wisconsin: 1 person
Wyoming
Age
Under 15: 9 people / 11%
16-18: 13 people / 16
19-24: 30 people / 37%
25-29: 19 people / 34%
30-34: 9 people / 11% the best age group, am I right?
35+: 1 person / 1%
All-Time Stats
How Long Have You Been Listening to ATL?
Less than a year: 11 people / 14%
1-2 years: 6 people / 7%
3-5 years: 19 people / 24%
6-10 years: 16 people / 20%
10+ years: 29 people / 36%
First Album/EP You Listened To?
The Party Scene: 3 people / 4%
Put Up or Shut Up: 9 people / 11%
So Wrong, It's Right: 19 people / 24%
Nothing Personal: 27 people / 33%
Dirty Work: 4 people / 5%
Don't Panic: 6 people / 7%
Future Hearts: 9 people / 9%
Last Young Renegade: 3 people / 4%
Wake Up, Sunshine: 1 person / 1%
Where Does ATL Fit Into Your Favorite Bands?
They are my favorite: 38 people / 48%
Tied for favorite: 18 people / 23%
Top 3: 10 people / 13% is it weird that I mod this sub and my answer is down here?
Top 5: 6 people / 8%
Top 10: 7 people / 9%
Not a favorite but still like them: 1 person / 1%
How Many Times Have You Seen ATL Live?
0 :(: 33 people/ 41% This is sad and we must fix it
1: 8 people / 10%
2: 8 people / 10%
3: 6 people / 9%
4-5: 7 people / 9%
6-10: 11 people / 14%
10+: 8 people / 10%
Do you watch/listen to Crash Test Live/Full Frontal?
Yes: 22 people / 27%
No: 32 people / 40%
Sometimes: 23 people / 29%
Other:
Used to watch FF, but don't watch CTL (2 people)
Planning to
I was a guest on Crash Test Live
Opinions
Favorite Album/EP?
The Party Scene: 1 / 1%
Put Up or Shut Up: 1 / 1%
So Wrong, It's Right: 11 / 14%
Nothing Personal: 15 / 19%
Dirty Work: 2 / 3%
Don't Panic: 12 / 15%
Future Hearts: 11 / 14%
Last Young Renegade: 7 / 9%
Wake Up, Sunshine: 20 / 25% this makes my heart so happy, even though I think WUS stole most of the Don't Panic votes.
Least Favorite Album/EP
The Party Scene 25 / 33%
Put Up or Shut Up 9 / 12%
So Wrong, It's Right 7 / 9%
Nothing Personal 0 / 0%
Dirty Work 9 / 12%
Don't Panic 2 / 3%
Future Hearts 7 / 9%
Last Young Renegade 16 / 21%
Wake Up, Sunshine 0 / 0% I would like to point out that last year, a handful of people voted "the new album we haven't heard yet" as their least favorite album. I hope you are feeling shame now.
Favorite Song
A Love Like War
Afterglow
Backseat Serenade (2)
Bottle and a Beat
break your little heart
Canals
Cinderblock Garden (5) this is really too varied to be significant but Cinderblock Garden is kinda the winner
Chemistry
Clumsy
Coffee shop soundtrack
Dark Side of Your Room
Drugs & Candy
For Baltimore (3)
Getaway Green
Glitter & Crimson (5)
Hello, Brooklyn (2)
Heroes (2)
Irony of Choking on a Lifesaver
Jasey Rae (4)
Last Young Renegade
Let It Roll
Lost in Stereo
Lullabies
Melancholy Kaleidoscope (2)
Missing You
Monsters (ft. Blackbear) (3)
Noel
Oh, Calamity!
Old Scars / Future Hearts (4)
Paint You Wings (2)
Poppin' Champagne
Pretty Venom
Return The Favor
Runaways
Safe (2)
Six Feet Under the Stars (3)
Something's Gotta Give
Somewhere in Neverland
Stay Awake
The Reckless and the Brave
The Girls a Straight Up Hustler (2)
Therapy (2)
To Live and Let Go
Toxic Valentine
Trouble Is (2)
Under a Paper Moon (2)
Vegas
Wake Up Sunshine
Walls
Weightless (4)
Least Favorite Song
A Love Like War
Bad Enough For You
Bail Me Out
Birthday
Cinderblock Garden (2)
Coffee Shop Soundtrack
Come One, Come All (2)
Damned If I Do Ya (10 Year Tribute Version)
Dirty Laundry
Drugs and Candy (2)
Good Times (2)
Ground Control (3)
I Feel Like Dancin' (4)
Idk something from PUOSU
Lullabies
Monsters
Most of the party scene and put up or shut up (sorry)
My Only One (2)
No Idea (3)
Poison
Remembering Sunday
Runaways
Satellite (2)
Something from LYR
So Long Soldier
Somethings Gotta Give
Stick, Stones, and Techno (5)
That Girl (3)
The Irony of Choking on a Lifesaver
Therapy
Too Much (10) RIP sweet summer child
Toxic Valentine (2)
Favorite Opener - this band has some great openers. I went with Reckless but it was hard to choose!
The Party Scene 0 / 0%
Coffee Shop Soundtrack 8 / 10%
This Is How We Do 0 / 0 % isn't someone here obsessed with this song? where were you on this one?
Weightless 25 / 31%
Do You Want Me (Dead?) 11 / 14%
The Reckless And The Brave 12 / 15%
Satelite 2 / 3%
Last Young Renegade 10 / 13%
Some Kind of Disaster 12 / 15%
Favorite Closer
Sticks, Stones, and Techno 2 / 3%
Lullabies 2 / 3%
Poppin Champagne 7 / 9%
Therapy 5 / 6%
Heroes 10 / 13%
So Long and Thanks For All The Booze 2 / 3%
Old Scars/Future Hearts 28 / 35% yes, correct.
Afterglow 11 / 14%
Basement Noise 13 /16%
Favorite Part of ATL
Lyrics 5 6%
Music 16 / 20%
Live Show 5 / 6%
Everything 53 / 65%
Other
lyrics and music and how well they fit together and create the perfect mood foreach song
Depends on the song, I like some for the lyrics and some for the sound more
Least Favorite Part of ATL - this is why we're all reading this post, right?
Dick jokes and general immaturity. I get it's how they are, but I don't find it super entertaining.
Dick jokes between songs live, but only because I like to watch the shows out loud at home with my parents nearby 😅
Does the bougie farm count? In my esteemed opinion: yes, yes it does
Don’t tour in my country.
How they toy with my heart
I hate how messed up the m&g system used to be. I was in the hustler club for a year in 2013-2014 and found it impossible to get m&g and have heard from friends that it’s only gotten worse
I worry they're still friends with men in bands that have been accused of sexual misconduct They need a stronger stance on this issue for sure!
It's not about them, bit sometimes Stan twitter can get really intense about topics So intense.
Jack acting like a 12 yr old
Jack's attitude is pretty annoying Quarantine Jack is giving me life, though! He seems like he's doing great!
Jack's jokes
Sophomoric humor
Standing on shoulders for SGG lmao
That I haven't seen them live
That we aren’t neighbors I personally would not want to live near that much manure. Maybe the other guys aren't so bad.
The bra-throwing, especially in their earlier days. It's super uncomfortable knowing that heaps of those bras come from underaged girls and whatnot. But I'm glad to see that the boys have matured heaps since they started out!
The dick jokes can get kinda old at times now
The fact that I'm 15 and they're o l d I take offense to this o l d comment
The fact that they always seem to skip over Ireland when they go on tour...
The fact that they never come here!
the farm
the ugly merch and the ignoring of The Party Scene and ttwtridwte ep Stop putting your faces on all your merch, guys.
The younger fandom
They've stopped touring certain cities
Too Much lmao this is so specific and I love it
When I’m not at a concert
the immature Blink a la 1998 thing they still sometimes do
They don't come to Canada enough!
Throwing bras on stage
Most of the merch isn’t very good tbh NO. MORE. FACES. ON. SHIRTS.
Bonus tracks that don't get released where I am :(
Jack’s 13-year-old jokes. Get some new material please.
"Stan" culture in general.
Favorite B-Side
A Love Like War (2)
Actors
Bad Enough For You
Basement Noise
Bottle and a Beat (15) We're on the right side of history here
Canals
Caroline (6)
Chemistry (2)
Future Hearts B-Sides (2)
Get Down on Your Knees and Tell Me You Love Me
How The Story Ends (5)
I Hate That For You
Painting Flowers (2)
Poison (4)
Take Cover (5)
Toxic Valentine
Vampire Shift (6)
Your Bed (3)
Favorite Song to Hear Live
Afterglow (3)
Backseat Serenade (2)
Cinderblock Garden (2)
Coffee Shop
Damned If I Do Ya (Damned If I Don’t) (2)
Dancing with a Wolf
Dark Side of Your Room (2)
Dear Maria (4)
Do You Want Me (Dead)?
Everything is Fine
Guts
Heroes (2)
Jasey Rae (4)
Kids in the Dark
Lost In Stereo (4)
Outlines
Remembering Sunday
Runaways
Six Feet Under The Stars
Some Kind of Disaster
Something's Gotta Give
Somewhere in Neverland (4)
Therapy (2)
Vegas (5)
Weightless (6) but like the old way, right?
Least Favorite Song to Hear Live
A Love Like War
Afterglow
Backseat Serenade
Birthday
Canals
Dark Side of Your Room (2)
Dear Maria (4)
Dirty Laundry (3)
Drugs and Candy
Good Times (2)
Lost in Stereo
Missing You (2)
Remembering Sunday
Something's Gotta Give (5) this is on brand for this sub
Therapy (2)
Time Bomb (2)
Too Much (6)
Dream song to hear live that they WILL NOT PLAY?
...I Feel Like Dancin’
A Daydream Away (5) - seriously!
Actors
All of the future hearts b-sides
Bottle and a Beat (4) yes
Circles (3)
Coffee Shop Soundtrack
Fool’s Holiday
Get Down on Your Knees and Tell Me You Love Me
Ground control
Guts
Holly
Hometown Heroes
Is it too early to say Pretty Venom? (2)
Lullabies (2)
Nightmares (2)
Oh, Calamity
Outlines
Paint You Wing (6) please bring her justice by letting her win DP survivor
Return the Favor (2)
Running from Lions
Safe (I think most of my favs they have actually played live at some point. Haven't heard Safe yet, would love that!) IF THEY DON'T PLAY SAFE I WILL RIOT
Six feet under the stars
STICKS STONES AND TECHNO (2)
Take Cover
Time Bomb
The Girl’s a Straight Up Hustler (3)
Therapy
To Live and Let Go
Too Much (I know they used to play it but I doubt they will again)
Toxic Valentine (3)
Umbrella
Under A Paper Moon (3)
Vampire Shift
Walls (3)
No idea, I guess Konstantine by Something Corporate ohhhhhh-kayyyyy
Do you have a favorite member?
Jack 11 / 14%
Zack 7 / 9%
Alex 20 / 26%
Rian 14 / 18% kind of a disappointing showing for this sub lol
Love 'Em All Equally 25 / 32%
I hate them all, why am I here 1 / 1%
Wow us with your controversial opinions/hot takes: or is it THIS section we're all here for?
ATL should post more on their tiktok. Jack is really good at TikTok
Dirty Work isn’t that bad. It's quite good, with a few exceptions
Favorite Place is easily the best song on WUS.
Getaway Green sucks, SGG doesn't :D
I actually enjoy Bail Me Out lol
I actually like SGG Sometimes I forgot that I actually do like SGG and BS because I lean so hard into the jokes here lol
I can’t stand the new version of Lost In Stereo, the screamed part is just so irritating to me and I skip it every time (I love the original version though)
Dirty Work isn’t their best album, but it’s also not nearly as bad as a lot of people make it out to be, it’s a really fun and catchy album even though the lyrics are kind of dated and cringy sometimes
Pretty Venom is extremely underrated
I do not like So Wrong It's Right at all
I do not think Monsters is the best song from WUS and I believe it is not as good as some fans make it out to be
I don’t like Don’t Panic a lot (it’s not bad but it’s not even close to my favorite), and I really like Last Young Renegade (it’s my second favorite). I also don’t like Clumsy that much (again it’s not bad but it’s not one of my favorites at all) your opinions make me sad but that's okay
I don’t mind the fan club name change hustlers was weird. i said it.
I feel like dancing is a great song and people just hate on it cause its fun and doesnt have a deeper meaning
I hate the farm I don't think this was me.
I hate Weightless, I don't like the singles from Don't Panic that much and Dirty Work has the best deepcuts.
I love Backseat and SGG and love when they play them live SUCK IT lmaooooooo are you Alex?
i really like the song bail me out
Jack is a man child who needs AA wellllll let's not speculate on someone's mental health okay?
Jack is easily the worst member of ATL
Last Young Renegade is great and if you don’t like the album now you’ll go back to it in a few years and love it.
Most of the acoustic tracks on albums aren't good
OS/FH and Hello, Brooklyn are not good songs.
People are way too critical of Alex online. Every other day, people are coming after him for something when he’s only one person. Dude has a million followers and puts his foot in his mouth sometimes. At least he usually owns up to it.
Put Up or Shit Up is way better than So Wrong It’s Right
red streak jack was better than current blonde jack, change my mind
Something's Gotta Give gets WAY too much slander SGG gets way too much shoulder. SEE WHAT I DID THERE?
Sticks, Stones, and Techno doesn't deserve the hate it gets
Super underrated (not really controversial)
the alcohol jokes were funny the first fifty times but i’m honestly tired of them and the constant promotion of their millions of wines etc. i’m not saying i hate drinking or something,,, i just wanna hear some new banter rather than the same three jokes repeated with a wine promo somewhere in the middle.
The fanbase hasn't something against Too Much, but it's one of my favourite songs. Nothing Personal
The farm is awful. I don’t like most of SWIR or LYR I don't think this was me. I like most of LYR and SWIR.
They don't have a single 'bad' song
Three Words/The Party Scene deserve to be recognized by the band while talking about their discography. Also, Dear Maria is and will always be a bop.
"Tidal Waves is a super weak song. obligatory Mark Hoppus features don't need anything besides The Hoppus lol
Dirty Work is a super solid album, though I admit a few songs are hit or miss.
That Girl is a banger of just a funny/ridiculous song.
Everything is Fine / Birthday are great, fun songs.
So Wrong It's Right is overrated, largely due to nostalgia, with only a few shining songs on the album.
Pretty Venom is underrated and is one of the best songs on WUS, better than Clumsy, Safe, and the Seasons at least. It's got a vibe to it that you'd listen to it with big headphones at midnight, while lying on your bed in the dark and staring up at the ceiling.
Too Much and Walls are the best songs on Nothing Personal, Weightless and Damned are highly overrated, Last Young Renegade was a mistake, Glitter & Crimson tries too hard, The Irony of Choking on a Lifesaver is bad These takes are super toasty, but I'm with you on G & C
Too Much is a good song, Nightmares is a bad song
Too much is a much better song than people think it's just too much for me
Wouldn't mind hearing more of Alex rapping! i believe your wish has come true
Alex gets a pass for a lot of things because he's the singesongwriter and people want to like him, but he oozes privilege a lot of the time and is sometimes kind of tone deaf (not musically of course) oh yes this one was me I remember it now
Basement noise is a good song
LYR is a top tier album no matter what anyone says. Also hope they release the B-Sides on Spotify soon
Dirty Work has more bops than flops
People need to stop pretending Dirty Work is good! The joke has gone on long enough!
I don't understand why Dear Maria has so many plays, it's not even the best song on that album
Jack has had the best glow up of everyone in the band.
They need to start referencing New Found Glory in their lyrics again. have you not heard Summer Daze?
Taylor Swift, animal crossing, avatar, animals being bros, rare puppers
Starbucks (I work there), wholesome, blackmagic, sims4, and pretty much the generic feel good ones
JimmyEatWorld, AmITheAsshole, lots of dog subs lol has anything been more obviously me?
hockey, thebachelor, relationships
wow, tumblr
niceguys
greenday, emo, mychemicalromance
blink182, dbz, smashbros, nintendo
What other fan spaces do you use? (To interact with other fans, not to follow the band/members)
Twitter: 23 / 52%
Instagram: 24 / 55%
Facebook: 8 / 18%
Discord: 12 / 27%
Other: 5 / 11%
If you use other spaces, how does the sub compare?
Better: 25 / 58%
Worse: 1 / 2%
About the same: 12 / 28%
Hard to say: 2 / 5 %
Other
For interactions with other fans it's the best place, but twitter is better for interaction with the band
I don't do other social media
The sub is the best ever!!!!
They both have their pros and cons and they’re very different sites so it’s kind of comparing apples to oranges
I think the sub is the most active I've seen the fanbase
What do you like about the sub?
Being able to connect with other people who love the band, since I don't know any other ATL fans in real life I feel this
Central to everything and better discussion
Community sense
Constant user engagement
Cool people, no drama, met my friends Jenna and Alex!, golden people! Hey, that's me!
Everybody is so friendly
Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions and talk openinly about them. The mods are active and participate in discussions, the survivors, and the off-topic posts.
Everyone is really nice and respectful (except in Survivors y’all suck lol) Sometimes people have opinions that are wrong lol
Everyone is very chill and it gives me a place to rant about both meaningless and meaningful things
everyone is very nice and it’s not a very hard place to just drop in for a bit. also you guys do surveys and stuff so that’s cool
Fans on here generally seem pretty respectful of each other and I’ve almost never seen any big fights between fans here
The survivors are really fun and a great way to have fans interact with each other and spark conversations!
Friendly and informative even to people like me who don't interact regularly
Friendly, civil discussions
Getting to know people!
Good vibes!
How people are polite
I like how it’s a free space to share opinions and enjoy the band the way it is rather than having people criticize you for your opinion.
I like the song survivor and seeing obscure ATL songs
I like the surveys/survivor stuff
I like the survivors and things that get people involved
I love posting my artwork on this sub. I feel like here is where it really gets love and makes me feel soo happy
Interesting content, the survivor, and we're all awesome!
It’s about a band I like you really said it best
It’s friendlier than a lot of others, and there’s a lot less arguing and harsh words
It’s really friendly and welcoming of new people, there’s no *drama* and it’s a great source of news/updates on the boys.
Keeps me informed about the boys and the band. Plus the polls are fun and I love seeing everyone’s fan art!
Ranking songs and albums, general discussion about the band and news
Really friendly people
Rian reads it gleefully, while withholding his AMA
Song Survivor
That you get a response
The community
The community aspect, I feel life everyone knows each other
The frequency of the post and how everyone (especially the mods) keep everything In order and engaging for everyone who frequents the sub
The mods are the best
the niceness and supportiveness of everybody and the song survivor games
The people :D
The people & community are so great & kind
The people are great. Love the inside jokes.
The people are nice and respectful of others opinions, less intense than twitter as people are generally older or more chill. Also love the interactivity of the survivors and surveys! It's the best.
The regular members and talking to them
The sense of community here is amazing. I’ve been in other subs that can get toxic. People respect each other here and that’s difficult to cultivate!
The survivors. Y'all are all generally wrong tho.
Very nice people
Very non-toxic, which is great because some parts of reddit are very much the opposite
People are really nice! Plus everything is very organized
The slightly older demographic!
The mods are nice
Pretty cool people
The vibe of the place. It’s very welcoming and safe.
The quality of the fans here. we are a high quality people
How could we improve?
Definitely more interaction, but that comes with time
I took a while to understand what the Sub-basement noise was about. The info is in the post? Could it be more clearly explained?
Just building subscribers Hopefully Rian has time to make some more alt accounts soon
Maybe not so much posting in the “basement noise” folder bc at times it can just seem a little chaotic but that’s about all That's kind of what it's for, so all those little threads won't be their own posts
Mods are intimidating I get this in real life, too, honestly
Not having to use a computer to get the emojis for flairs you don't!
RIAN'S AMA out of my hands lol
Some recent posts seem lower quality but I think that is just with an increase of newer members.
We need more dudes we are a low %age of dudes but I bet we have more than other places because Reddit's general demographics is mostly men I think
We’re getting there but better monitoring of low qualify posts. The Basement Noise/daily off topic thread is amazing!
Don’t do too many countdowns! Do you mean Survivors?
I'm not involved enough to have a good answer for this.
What would you like to see on the sub for content/activity?
A continuation of the survivors, whether that be singles survivor or album survivor don't you worry, we've got lots of voting ahead of us
AMAs with the band/band members GOOD LORD WE ARE TRYING LOL
competitions maybe for art/covers/etc.? we've done a couple fan art contests and they were pretty well liked so we plan to do another in a few months.
Discussions on songs we tried this before and it didn't really take off. maybe we can try again
Everything is v great
Fan art and more discussions
I always thought it would fun to do daily or weekly trivia.I LOVE THIS IDEA! I don't know enough ATL trivia so let me take it to the mod team
I think we all would like to see the AMA from Rian but that's beyond our control. Rian has forgotten about it lol RIAN!! GET ON IT!
Interaction from the boys 👀 Maybe I just need to criticize Alex more, that's what got him here last time (lol I kid, I kid)
Lyric discussions We used to have these, they weren't really participated in, and we thought maybe ATL songs were too straight forward to really get into
Maybe having more fan contests (Art, song covers, etc.) and maybe (If possible) more interaction with the band themselves
Nothing specific. I just like honest, good discussion topics.
Polls, rankings, facilitated discussions
Rían ama :)
Rian AMA (or any member tbh) I feel like at this point one of the other members could offer an AMA and I'd be like NOPE WE ONLY WANT RIAN. lol
RIAN'S AMA
Rian/Alex AMA
Rians AMA that he lied about hah
The song survivors are super fun to vote in, and I liked the fan art contest too. Cool to read other people's unpopular opinions, and see others' album rankings. Anything that asks for input/opinions from the community is fun to participate/observe. Sadly I don't have any new ideas for more activities. I just want to express my appreciation for these events!
Maybe polls on their music or anything related? Just for fun like weekly or something
Lyric interpretation threads
I'm not involved enough to have a good answer for this.
Anything You Want To Add?
Alex Gaskarth has great hair I'm so sorry, but you're wrong.
Have a good day :)
Have a nice day!
Hi Jenna give feeney a kiss for me DONE AND DONE!
I love this sub
Keep up the good work
Love surveys, love the sub, love my boys. Why am I still awake?
Love y’all <3
Mods are solid and thank goodness for the people who contribute regularly for us lurkers to have things to read :)
RIAN'S AMA lmao
Stream Wake Up, Sunshine by All Time Low okay
Thank you, mods! You have made this sub a great place to be and I love being part of it!
the sub is very well run and the mods I think are very nice
This sub has done so much for me in the last few months. It makes me feel like I have friends in this community! Thank you guys soo much. Also...I'm chancing my arm at this but when a mod slot opens up where can I apply ? Lol
This sub IS my favorite place (other than concerts)
You guys are doing a great job and I love it here!
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Second book I wrote in 2018:
Book #2 Can You Make A Living Wagering on Sports by The Outlaw Micheal Tomsik
CLICK HERE TO LINK TO AMAZON KINDLE PAGE:I decided today to overlook both of my books on Kindle on Amazon about Sports Wagering.In really started the whole Sports Gambling Business in 2015.I operated a 1 year experiment I called the Outlaw Sports Betting Experiment. I did this because Nevada was going towards allowing Sports Investment Companies and I had decided that I was going to own and operate this type of business and company.In 2016 I got licensed and was the first company in Reno Nevada to place wagers at sports books with investors.Today in 2020 the whole sports industry has been turned inside out and upside down with the Covid19 outbreak, lockdowns, sports halting for months, no fans in the stands, playing in what is called bubbles, changing playoff structures, and overall all the different changes created for the Covid19 outbreak.Also another change Sports Wagering use to only be legal in Nevada, but as of 2020 government deemed to allow States to open Sports Wagering legally.States that are already allowing Sports Wagering : Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, New Hampshire.States that will most likely open later in 2020: Virgina, North Carolina, TennesseeIt is predicted that 33 out of 50 States will have legal sports betting with in the next year or so.According to research Sports Wagering is a billion dollar business so it is not a real surprise that it is opening up and expanding across the Nation.In 2017 the casinos reported 41.68 billion dollars in revenues from sports wagering.According to research 95 billion dollars was placed on the NFL and College Football, and overall 150 billion dollars was wagered on sports overall.You would believe the NFL would top the sports wagering industry but actually horse racing tops out at number one with the Kentucky Derby followed by Soccer and the NFL Super Bowl Game.The truth is the NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB leagues fought sports gambling till just recently with law changes.Sports wagering is expected to be near 8 billion dollars by 2025.Though most people this is more for entertainment reason I still believe that Sports Wagering can be a full time career, business.However reading my books may give you some learning curves, there are many sports pick companies, and other companies that change money for giving picks.I never used any of these I developed my own system tested it and it worked.I only got out due to some reasons I stayed in my book because I had investors, and still answered to people.I believe I could be the first self employed gambling company in the world so I am considering a come back of :OUTLAW SPORTS BETTING COMPANY!
I went on a bit of a rant after skimming some senate bills. Feel free to use this to email your reps.
I look up bills in my state every once in a while for things I am interested in just to stay informed. After seeing poker lumped in as a "games of chance" like bingo and slot machines I wrote a bit of a rant to my representatives. Thought I would share what I wrote incase anyone here wanted to use it. I know it's COVID and there are bigger issues. But even more the reason to allow online play. You might want to remove my reference to the Washington States Senate bill, but I'm sure something similar exists for you. For the most part, these emails are actually read. So it's not a waste of time to change what I have a little email it to a few people. ------------- Find your reps: https://www.commoncause.org/find-your-representative/add ------------- Hello, my name is [Name] and I live in [State] District [your disctrict number]. I am writing to you to voice my support for online poker and explain why it should be legalized. I was prompted to write this email after skimming a few senate bills, one of which (S-1558.1) read this: "An affirmative vote of sixty percent of both houses of the legislature is required before offering any game allowing or requiring a player to become eligible for a prize or to otherwise play any portion of the game by interacting with any device or terminal involving digital, video, or other electronic representations of any game of chance, including scratch tickets, pull-tabs, bingo, poker or other cards, dice, roulette, keno, or slot machines. Approval of the legislature shall be required before entering any agreement with other state lotteries to conduct shared games;" The part of this bill that is particularly inaccurate is classifying poker as a "game of chance". A game of chance would imply a fixed probability of a person winning or losing. Rolling dice has a 1:5 chance of hitting the number you want, Slot Machines are a programmed payout %, and all other games listed here fit in that category. But Poker does not. But the defining characteristic I think you should pay attention to here is that in the world of gambling the house has this fixed edge using probabilities. So no matter what a person does the house will always have a 3-20% edge. For example, if you are playing roulette, no matter what you do you have a ~47% chance of winning. Meaning the house has a 6% edge. Yes, there are scenarios in poker where you can get lucky, but that is with any game or sport. The chance of it raining, the chance of twisting your ankle, the chance of sneezing. But aside from that, Poker it is far from a game of chance. This is most easily proven by the mere existence of professional poker players. People who are skilled at poker, win way more often than they lose on average. The house has no edge in poker, individuals have an edge, but only based on their skill level. Skills include, but are not limited to:
Knowing the value of your hand compared to the possible value of your opponents hands given the cards on the board.
Knowing the probability of improving of your hand (If I need a heart, there is a 25% chance of that coming. If I need a King after the flop I have ~16% chance of winning)
Knowing how to bet (and how much to bet), or call, or fold based on the value of your hand and the odds of it improving.
These are all skills that a person can possess to have an edge over other people. However, there is no edge for the house. This dynamic exists in many games, there is no difference in playing poker for money than there is in entering a singing contest for money. They both mostly involve the skill of the person vs their opponents, the only difference is that odds of getting a heart on the next card or getting a King after the flop are perfectly predictable opportunities of chance in poker, therefore more noticeable. But the luck involved in singing like humidity that day, technical issues, or getting sick are much hard to measure, therefore less noticeable. Finally, I want to compare poker to something that is legal, truly a game of chance, and damaging to low income populations–the lottery. Online poker can easily be regulated and will mostly be played by higher income earners. Yes, it is possible for people to be addicted, but people can be addicted to anything. Being online vs in person does not make a difference as to how an addict will behave. However, the lottery is more addictive and specifically targets low income areas. The fact that the lottery is legal and people can pay $10 - $100 a week on a game that they have a near 0 chance of "winning", but cannot play online poker with that same money and improve their chances overtime just does not make any logical sense. If someone is addicted to poker, they will play poker. The only difference is that you are forcing them into playing in person where the cheapest game is $300 to buy in. But the advantage of online poker is, those same people can get their fix buying in for $10. By making online poker illegal, you are hurting the very people you say you are protecting even worse. Poker was made famous in America with online poker, now we are the one of the only countries beside Iran and North Korea where it is illegal. If [State] truly is a progressing place, you will reconsider your stance in online poker and make it legal and regulated the same way New Jersey, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Delaware have. Thank you for taking the time to read my position.
David, an accounting manager from Washington state, dressed as a 4th-grade Alex for Halloween;
Michelle, a managing director from Delaware and today's winner, needs pads to be the second-best roller skater in Delaware; and
Joshua, a tour company owner from Hawaii, was an apprentice jellyfish wrangler. Joshua entered the game as a one-day champ with winnings of $16,400.
Joshua once again proved to be an effective DD shopper, scoring on both in DJ and taking first place into FJ with $21,000 vs. $13,400 for Michelle and $4,200 for David. DD1, $400 - BOOTS - Chukka boots are said to get their name from a period in this sport (Michelle lost $2,000 from her score of $3,400.) DD2, $2,000 - WHO SPOKETH IN THE BIBLE - "Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favor with God" (Despite not knowing the previous two clues in the category, Joshua bet his entire $3,000 and was correct.) DD3, $2,000 - MEDICAL PROCEDURES - A keratoplasty is another name for one of these eye part transplants (Joshua won $5,000 from his total of $12,800 vs. $11,400 for Michelle.) FJ - ADVERTISING & MUSIC - In 2008, 34 years after it made Billboard's Top 10, this song title was used by a southern state in a tourism campaign Michelle and David were correct, with Michelle adding $4,500 to win with $17,900. That's before our time: Very, very depressingly, no one realized that a first-round clue's reference to a 1960s "music group's boots" was about the Beatles. Correct Qs: DD1 - What is polo? DD2 - Who is Gabriel? DD3 - What is the cornea? FJ - What is "Sweet Home Alabama"?
Welcome wrestling fans, it’s time for another month of Eastern Championship Wrestling. It’s been pretty fun so far. The Sandman/Rockin’ Rebel feud is alright. But I cannot wait for the Muraco/Sandman match.
How Did Your Favorite Players Perform (Relative to Seeding) At Glitch 7?
Sorry everyone for the late posting. Had a bit of a personal emergency while I was writing this. It's why it's a bit worse then normal this time. Also the cause of the lateness and a few segments/write ups being rather rushed. As normal, it's an analysis of how everyone did at Glitch 7. I covered the Top 48 Seeds and Top 64 placements. Let's dive right in! Note: If you are one of the listed players and want to contribute a quote, please let me know. Disclaimer 1: Not all runs are created equal. Some players needed to take on monsters to get their placement. Some less so. This is not meant to be an objective quality match-up of players. Disclaimer 2: If a player had a bad tournament that doesn't make them a bad player. It is easier to perform below your standard then above. Thus, one tournament can make a career, but it can't break it. There are many reasons players lose. As fans we have a responsibility to be good to players. They cry and sweat for us. The goal isn't to make players stress out about individual placements more, but to catch interesting story lines and data. Don't be a dick to players. Disclaimer 3: It is easier for a low seed to overperform and for a high seed to underperform. Seeds are a stand-in for expectations. The bad part of high expectations is that beating them is hard. One should consider equal levels of over-performance to favor higher seed players in terms of level of impressiveness. Disclaimer 4: An issue with seeding is just as good an explanation for some of these cases as bad play is. It is not always possible to tell the difference. How to Read This: Number indicates placement relative to expected placement. The number reflects losers round expected to lose in vs actual loss. If a player was seeded between 13 and 16, that means they were expected to go out at 13th place. Thus, if they got a +1 it means they got 9th place. If they got a -1 then it means they got 17th.
+5 or More (Star Turn)
N/a
+2 to +4 (Strong Tournament)
(PG) ESAM. PGRU 16. 6th Seed. 1st Place. (+4) - The man of the hour. Shiny head. On the same day that Ash finally won the Pokemon League, ESAM dominated Glitch 7. He ended up through LeoN, Nairo, and Tweek before double eliminating his frequent foe Light to win the event without even dropping a set. That scream of victory was earned. This was far and away the biggest victory in his decade of Smash. Pika Pika. (Demise) ZD. PGRU A51. 36th Seed. 9th Place. (+4) - Nearly a year ago, it was at Glitch 6 that ZD put himself into the top player contention with a 5th place finish. In the time since then, he’s struggled to get those gets to the point where he almost fell off the PGR entirely. But, here at the tournament that made him, ZD roared back into the spotlight. His two big wins here were Cosmos and Lui$. All in all, it feels like ZD is back in the conversation again, and that’s incredible to see. SMB. 66th Seed. 17th Place. (+4) - SMB (or Scot! as he is normally known) has been new England’s best Luigi for a long time. Like most of Smash 4 long time. But, it’s been a long time since he got results like this. First a small upset over Young Eevey in winners, before beating 6WX, Dexter, and Puppeh in losers. A fantastic run from an old hand. (Rogue) Light. PGRU 10. 5th Seed. 2nd Place. (+3) - There was a segment in late June/early July, but that seems distant in the past. WIth the exception of Shine, he’s got Top 8 every tournament for months. But, this? This was one of his finest performances to date, taking second at a 500+ person super major. Along the way he both double eliminated Dabuz and beat Samsora. Gen. PGRU A51. 31st Seed. 9th Place. (+3) - This is was just a fantastic run. Losses to Tweek and Dabuz. Wins over Mr E, Young Eevey, Odyssey, Salem, and Sandstorm? It’s a hell of a performance...though, a lot of Tristate. I know Eevey and Salem break it up, but he couldn’t have run into an MDVA top player at some point? Stocktaker69. 57th Seed. 17th Place. (+3) - The world’s best/worst named wolf player absolutely destroyed his seed here. But, he didn’t get a lot of upsets. PreCookedBread. 152nd Seed. 49th Place. (+3) - Relatively unknown player, but he had a strong run, including an upset over 65th Seed Dietsoda. Jakal. 20th Seed. 9th Place. (+2) - Man, Jakal’s epic washout at SSC really lit a fire in the man. This is his second 9th place result in a row. This time he even got a really strong PGR win in the process over fellow Tri-Stater Wishes. Jakal could realistically become the first PGR player with a “513th place” on his sheet. (CLG) VoiD. PGRU 9. 18th Seed. 9th Place. (+2) - VoiDDDDDD yesssss. SoCal’s top talent returns from the depths of his character crisis with...Sheik!? In a flurry of blows that probably do, like, 3% each, VoiD beat yeti, SMB, and LeoN. Well, he needed to take his Pichu off mothballs for LeoN. But, all in all it was a really inspiring run that reminded us that VoiD could retake his Top 10 in the world status at any time really. (AMG) 8BitMan. PGRU A51. 35th Seed. 17th Place. (+2) - His run started off good, not great, with an expected loss to Sinji in pools. But, I guess there is something in the MDVA water for ROB mains. He proceeded to cut through much of losers, including Suarez, before being stopped by fellow Flordanian….Flordinian...Floralsmoard...Florida person Salem. Ismon. 33rd Seed. 17th Place. (+2) - The Texas Wario got upset early by Lucky the Plantlord, but made the most of a losers run. He beat the likes of Benny&TheJets, Juice, and...oh yeah...Rivers himself. That’s what I’m talking about. (GLD) Young Eevey. 63rd Seed. 25th Place. (+2) - God hath brought me a bounty on this day. Remember, this guy? He’s the Bowser Junior main from the Netherlands who got Top 8 at Albion. Well, apparently that was not a fluke. Despite an early loss to SMB (join the club) he went all the way to Top 32 by beating no less a player then yeti. His first US tournament and he gets a PGR win? Fear this Penguin. (ATU) Mekos. 60th Seed. 25th Place. (+2) - Lucas player from the Carolinas. The +2? An upset on Fatality himself. Dexter. 50th Seed. 25th Place. (+2) - A member of MDVA’s pack of Wolfs. Managed to get a number of wins including Static, the Bowser, Blazing Pasta, and ESAM’s brother Nick Riddle. Bully. 96th Seed. 33rd Placement. (+2) - A Link main from the Carolinas. He got won his pool by getting an upset over LingLing, and even managed to get a game off Samsora. Guess he practiced his Peach matchup. Qwerty. 116th Seed. 49th Place. (+2) - A Lucario player who isn’t Jeda or Tsu? Fuck yeah. His upset was over Frozen. (NGYN) Rocky~. 113th Seed. 49th Place. (+2) - This one took me a bit. He’s seemingly a local MDVA Bowser Jr, and his win? PG Coney. The announcer. Fascinating. Sova Unknown. 98th Seed. 49th Place. (+2) - An MDVA wifi warior and another Link Main.
-1 to +1 (Normal Tournament)
(Liquid) Dabuz. PGRU 7. 4th Seed. 3rd Place. (+1) - Another good, not great, day in Buzworld. He got some really great wins here, including over both Tweek and Nairo. It would have been glorious...if he hadn’t been double eliminated by Light, and had Light pull the most over the top pop-off on him after he won. It’s okay though. ESAM avenged him by popping off over Light. Wishes. PGRU 21. 24th Seed. 13th Place. (+1) - Remember all those naysayers who said Wishes would struggle to place with solo Joker? And by nay sayers, I mean me? Well. I was wrong. I am sorry Wishes. I did not expect you to beat Cosmos and nearly beat WaDi with solo Joker. I was wrong. (DA) Sinji. PGRU 25. 30th Seed. 17th Place. (+1) - So wait. Sinji. PGRU 25 Sinji. Best Pac Man in the America Sinji...was put in 30th Seed? But, that 17th looks much closer to where he should have been seeded to perform to me. He only lost to Nairo and LeoN, while beating BestNess and 8BitMan. Yeah, I want someone to show their homework on this one. (Demise) Mr E. PGRU 38. 26th Seed. 17th Place. (+1) - I know the meme about Mr E is that he is boringly consistent (except at EVO), but he actually got a really solid upset in the form of Puppeh here. Still only got the one though. We’re not exactly reinventing the wheel out here. (GoTE) Vinny G. 43rd Seed. 25th Place. (+1) - One of Florida’s best Snake players. We always knew he was good, but his set with LeoN was a total nailbiter that Vinny only lost by a hair. He actually got to that set by beating BestNess too. Good showing, on screen and off. (Ho3K) Dill. 41st Seed. 25th Place. (+1) - The best ROB in Tristate. He got a lot of benefit out of Elegant dropping out and Dazai taking his spot. (InC) Odyssey. 58th Seed. 33rd Place. (+1) - Tristate’s most notable Fox main. Got an upset on Static the Boswer main. (SCY) Lucky. 52nd Seed. 33rd Place. (+1) - Oh, I know this guy. This is the Midwest Plant main who took Shoe’s soul at Smash N Splash. Actually got an upset on Ismon, who went on to have a very good tournament. SAUCE. 51st Seed. 33rd Place. (+1) - Mario main, I believe. Got an upset on hometown hero, Seagull Joe. DiZ. 49th Seed. 33rd Place. (+1) - A CFL Plant Player. We actually got his game with Coney on stream. I believe his win was over JLIM, but it was not an upset. (SN) Hawk. 94th Seed. 49th Place. (+1) - A wolf main from CT. (Ho3K) Ralphie. 93rd Seed. 49th Place. (+1) - Tristate wolf main. His upset? ZD of all people. Who A. should have known that matchip and B. actually had a really really strong tournament otherwise. Devvystar. 86th Seed. 49th Place. (+1) - MDVA Isabelle/Mac main. (4lpha) Blank. 85th Seed. 49th Place. (+1) - No, this is not the Chom main. This is the Peach player from Connecticut. Got an upset over Deluxemenu the Bowser. (DeLuXe) Static. 79th Seed. 49th Place. (+1) - Bowser player from Delaware. Made it into top 64 over Lucious and Flippy. 6WX. 74th Seed. 49th Place. (+1) - A top 50 all time Smash 4 player and one of the best Sonic players in the world. He actually got upset in pools and knocked Sandstorm out of the bracket, winning his $100 bounty. (BCe BBM) Beast. 73rd Seed. 49th Place. (+1) - A Pokemon Trainer from Pennsylvania, I believe. Got an upset over Mata-Door. JLIM. 72nd Seed. 49th Place. (+1) - Local MDVA Snake player. Made it this far because Squidboy got upset, I think? (AG) WaDi. PGRU 24. 8th Seed. 7th Place. (+0) - WaDi is the king of MDVA and Glitch is his home turf. He basically played to seed here, but that proved a more daunting task than it might seem. Both Wishes and VoiD were in his way, and they had hot hands. The fact that WaDi fought his way into Top 8, only dropping sets to Top 10 players is proof of that. (MVG) Dark Wizzy. PGRU 31. 7th Seed. 7th Place. (+0) - When Wizzy got 5th at Shine, people were clowning on him for not having beat any PGRU 1 players. Well, not only did he repeat the performance here, but did it with a PGRU win on Mr. E. He also game damn close to upsetting Tweek in the process. (MVG) Salem. PGRU 22. 15th Seed. 13th Place. (+0) - Salem threw everything at this bracket. He played Snake, Hero, Greninja. He even brought his Bayonetta back from nerfed hell. Didn’t get him especially far though. He got crushed by a double dose of Tri-State Palu in the form of Nairo and Gen. Lui$. 21st Seed. 17th Place. (+0) - Actually beat Rivers, which is solid. Still he got beat by both Light and ZD. AKA the other two meta-defining Fox players. Gotta work on that ditto. (TG) MVD. PGRU 17. 17th Seed. 17th Place. (+0) - MVD actually got slightly lucky that Dazai took over 16th seed, and almost went positive on that alone. But, he got decidedly unlucky Wishes upset Cosmos and the two had to play for 17th. LingLing. 32nd Seed. 25th Place. (+0) - NE’s best Peach. Got upset early by Bully the Link player. Still, he made an admirable losers run until he got stuck playing Cosmos for 25th. Still made it all the way to his seeded result. (lluZ) Juice. 28th Seed. 25th Place. (+0) - One of Pennsylvania’s best players. I believe he’s been going Falco of late. Got a win on Frozen, but got upset by Ismon. (OES) Benny&TheJets. 45th Seed. 33rd Place. (+0) - ROB main from the Carolinas with an awesome name. (DARBLY) Deluxemenu. 44th Seed. 33rd Place. (+0) - Bowser main from Texas. Kofi. 40th Seed. 33rd Place. (+0) - The Long Island Falco main. MDVA loves their spacies. Actually placed equally well in both Smash and Rivals of Aether. (Typo) Sonido. 38th Seed. 33rd Place. (+0) - A Sonic main, of course. Avenged his defeat at the hands of Suarez with a victory of Burnsocks. Burntsocks. 59th Seed. 49th Place. (+0) - One of MDVA’s two most prominent Yoshis. Lost to ESAM, like Suarez. (NRG) Nairo. PGRU 8. 3rd Seed. 4th Place. (-1) - Nairo played pretty well. His two losses were ESAM and Dabuz, two other players who’ve been top level since Brawl. He came pretty close to beat ESAM on winners side too. (SpS) LeoN. PGRU 35. 11th Seed. 13th Place. (-1) - Pikachu and Pichu in one bracket? As Boswer? That’s some bullshit. Trying to juke ESAM out with G&W was pretty funny though. (PG) Cosmos. PGRU 11. 10th Seed. 13th Place. (-1) - Guys, I think we broke Cosmos. It was that damn 20 hour AYAYA stream, I bet. In all seriousness, this is only a minor underperformance. He got a decent win over MVD, but his losses to Wishes and ZD are more striking. That Wishes loss was edge of your seat, last second stuff too. (Armada) BestNess. 22nd Seed. 25th Place. (-1) - He actually got upset by Vinny G early, but made it all the way to 25th, taking out Goblin along the way. His run got snuffed out by Sinji though. Mostly a mixed bag. Fatality. PGRU 48. 29th Seed. 33rd Place. (-1) - Alas, the Falcon extraordinaire lost early to Mekos, the Lucas main. A shame since he actually almost beat Dabuz, on stream, in winners. Suarez. PGRU 49. 27th Seed. 33rd Place. (-1) - You know Suarez is having a bad tournament when his nemesis Light makes it to the 2nd spot. He got upset by 8bitMan in losers, which is by no means terrible. Adastran. 47th Seed. 49th Place. (-1) - This is the WiiFit player who recently beat Raito at Smash Con. Went out a bit early after being upset by Dexter. (Demise) Seagull Joe. 46th Seed. 49th Place. (-1) - One of MDVA’s many wolf players. Got upset by SAUCE.
-4 to -2 (Weak Tournament)
(NPT) BlazingPasta. 23rd Seed. 33rd Place. (-2) - Pasta has been really flexing of late, so this slightly bad result is sad to see. He lost to Wizzy in winners, which is pretty normal, but then got upset by Dexter, one of MDVA’s pack of wolves. (APE) Goblin. PGRU 39. 19th Seed. 33rd Place. (-2) - Not quite as bad as it looks. The Roy main got beat handedly by fellow Florida Aligator Salem’s snake. He was projected to go on in losers, but had the bad luck that BestNess had been upset earlier. It’s still technically an upset, I suppose, but this one tracks as bad luck mostly. (W2W) Biddy. 48th Seed. 65th Place. (-2) - The Tristate Young Link. Got upset by Stocktacker and Disaea. (SCARZ) Xzax. 42nd Seed. 65th Place. (-2) - The best Inkling in California. Alas, he got stuck in Young Eevey’s amazing losers run. It takes a lot to make me root against SoCal, but a freaking Bowser Junior player is “a lot”. (Ho3K) Frozen. PGRU 46. 37th Seed. 65th Place. (-2) - The Tristate Palu (so rare) who popped off at Collision. After losing to Juice in winners, got upset by QWERTY, the MDVA Lucario. Guess, he kind of let it go here. (WC) Sandstorm. 34th Seed. 65th Place. (-2) - His results at DreamHack Montreal and Low Tier City has placed the Brawlhalla champion in the conversation for up and coming talent, but his run was cut slightly short here by 6WX, the PGR Sonic player from Smash 4. (TSM) Tweek. PGRU 2. 2nd Seed. 5th Place. (-3) - Tweek has several modes. Low Energy Tweek, eSports Tweek, and Fun Times Tweek. After the emergence of his top level PT at the end of the summer, he’s since largely used secondaries. This time he went mostly Banjo...and we can definitely say his Banjo is not bad. I mean, 5th place at an S tie- I mean A tier, losing to ESAM and Dabuz. This was Fun Times Tweek, but Fun Times Tweek is still a Top 10 in the world level player. Dazai. 16th Seed. 33rd Place. (-3) - Oh Dazai. How the mighty have fallen. You were so close to...wait, who the fudge is this guy and how did he gets 16th Seed? Apparently he’s a local MDVA Swordies player whose been winning a lot at The Grind, and was seeded number 2 in his pool. Then, Elegant dropped out and he was bumped up to Elegant's seed, since he was seeded to win the pool at that point anyway. So, technically, nothing actually changed besides the number, and had his seed not been changed he’d be at +0. Does this drive me batty as a stats nerd? That’ll be a yes from me. Does my opinion really matter? Lol no. (dB) yeti. PGRU 34. 14th Seed. 33rd Place. (-3) - Not a great result for the Megaman of the Midwest, but he actually got some money because he collected the $100 bounty for Fullstream the Rivals of Aether player. Ultimatly, he wound up here for two reasons. First is that VoiD is apparently godlike again. Second is that the Dutch Bowser Junior God Young Eevey blessed us with his presence. (EU) Samsora. PGRU 4. 1st Seed. 5th Place. (-4) - Only placed here because of high seeding. Samsora did fine. He even got sweet vengeance on WaDi from CEO. But, the buzz that Samsora is number 2 in the world took the tiniest of hits from losses to Nairo and Light here. Both fellow Top Players, so definitely nothing to get your knickers in a twist about. But, not enough to firmly establish his Number 2 position either. Rivers. PGRU 18. 12th Seed. 33rd Place. (-4) - James’ return to tournaments, sporting a revived Diddy Kong secondary, has yet to impress in the way that his string of results in May did. He got upset by Lui$ and Ismon here. Both spacies, which seems to suggest some kind of spacies related issue? Or maybe he’s just got a bit of rust. Puppeh. PGRU 28. 9th Seed. 33rd Place. (-4) - For a little while after Puppeh’s godlike string of victories over top players at CEO in June, Puppeh was talked about as potential Top 20 in the world. But, he’s consistently only placed 17th or 33rd at majors since then. Which, all things considered, is hardly damning. Especially since his losses were Mr E and SMB, a PGR player and a dude on a tear. But, unless something changes, getting PGRU again seems unlikely. (TG) MuteAce. PGRU 27. 25th Seed. 97th Place. (-4) - Funny seeing you here. MuteAce has always been rather prone to up/down swings in results, so I probably am not going to read too much into this. He also wasn’t using his normal controller apparently?
We move onto week 6 in College Football, and it isn't a pretty schedule. Not too many big games, and not too many games in general, lot of bye weeks. Which ones should you watch? I've ranked all FBS vs FBS games, starting with... Group of 5 Blowouts/Ugly Games 44) UTSA vs UTEP - 8:00, ESPN+: 2 of the worst teams in the country face off in the Sun Bowl this week. UTSA should have the edge here, as they have a much better run D. This will be a ground and pound game, which the Roadrunners will win. 43) Massachusetts vs Florida International - 7:00, ESPN3: In a battle of 1-win teams, FIU will be the ones getting their second win. UMass has one win this year, and that was vs 0-5 Akron last week. FIU has had much closer losses, and the home-field advantage here. 42) Liberty vs New Mexico State - 8:00, Check local listings: The first of 2 meetings between these teams this year will be terrible! Liberty has the better offense, and unless NMSU forces a shootout like they did with New Mexico, they'll win by 10+. 41) Rice vs UAB - 7:00, ESPN+: Rice may not win a single game this year, that's how bad they are. UAB has a very solid defense, and Rice can't score at all. Unless they pull off a miracle and learn how to score, they'll get dominated. 40) Ball State vs Northern Illinois - 3:30, ESPN3: NIU has had a terrifying 3 game stretch against all Power 5 teams, but now they can settle down. This is an easy nominee for ugliest game of the week. It has bad offenses, rain, and good defense. 39) Boise State vs UNLV: 10:30, CBS Sports Network: I hate putting teams as good as Boise this low, since you need to see just how good they are. Thing is, UNLV is freaking terrible. Make sure you watch the Broncos sometime this year, but not this week. 38) Eastern Michigan vs Central Michigan - 3:00, ESPN+: I'm very confused about EMU. They beat Illinois by 3 two games ago, and beat Central Connecticut State by only 5 last week. They'll have a great shot at a win here, but, honestly, neither of these teams will be a factor in the MAC. 37) Western Kentucky vs Old Dominion - 6:00, ESPN+: Stat of the day: WKU is leading the East Division of Conference USA despite losing to an FCS team week one. That says more about the quality of teams in that division than anything else. Either way, they win here. 36) San Diego State vs Colorado State - 10:00, ESPN2: SDSU is only a 7.5 point favorite here. I'd rush to my Local sportsbook and place a bet on them immediately. Their D is amazing, and the offense will do more than enough to win. 35) Memphis vs Louisiana-Monroe: 3:45, ESPNU: Which will be a higher total: Number of fans in attendance, or TV viewers? Only reason I ask: Who actually cares about this game? Memphis should blow ULM outta the water. Power 5 Blowouts: 34) Bowling Green vs Notre Dame - This game has the biggest spread for an FBS vs FBS game I've ever seen: ND is a 45.5 point favorite. Even worse, there's a high chance they cover. That how bad BGSU is, they won't have a shot. 33) Kent State vs Wisconsin - Noon, ESPNU: Kent State had a whole extra week to prepare to get destroyed. Johnathan Taylor will either dominate this defense, or get very few carries and sit most of the game. It could actually be both. 32) Georgia vs Tennessee - 7:00, ESPN: Tennessee couldn't even beat Georgia State at home, what makes you think they'll have a shot against Georgia?! Next! 31) Maryland vs Rutgers - Noon, Big Ten Network: Rutgers has already fired its head coach this year. That won't help all too much for a team that's overmatched every conference game. Maryland will recover from last week's beatdown and win. 30) Oklahoma vs Kansas - Noon, ABC: The only real reason to watch this is for Jalen Hurts's Heisman campaign. He will light up the Jayhawk D, and he will probably be sitting by the end of the 3rd quarter, at the absolute latest. 29) Illinois vs Minnesota - 3:30, Big Ten Network: One of these teams is undefeated, the other lost to Eastern Michigan. That should tell you who wins this. Minnesota hasn't won a game by more than a TD, but they'll win by a pretty wide margin here. 28) Utah State vs LSU - Noon, SEC Network: LSU hasn't stopped scoring since the season started, and they won't stop here. Utah State has racked up the yards on offense, about matching LSU, but can't score the same points. They need convert on RedZone drives to have a shot. 27) Troy vs Missouri - 4:00, SEC Network: Any game that Troy plays seems to evolve into a shootout. The lowest they've scored in a game is 35, and they scored 42 and 43 points in their 2 losses. Mizzou's D is their stiffest test yet though, so we'll see if the points will keep flowing. Close Group of 5 Games 26) New Mexico vs San Jose State - 10:00 Fri., CBS Sports Network: New Mexico's offense will have to ground and pound it in order to win this one. SJSU has a solid pass D, but they can't stop the run. NM will also need to stop the pass, but I think they can steal a win. 25) Marshall vs Middle Tennessee - 3:30, Facebook: This is our first true look at MTSU this year. So far, they've only played Power 5 teams, or FCS teams. Their defense has looked very rocky, and if that continues, Marshall will run all over them. 24) Tulsa vs SMU - 7:30, ESPNU: SMU is ranked for the first time since the 80s, and have already beaten TCU this year. They don't have many tough games for awhile, so they may overlook some of them. If they overlook Tulsa, it could be very costly. 23) Tulane vs Army - Noon, CBS Sports Network: These team faced off in 2015 and 2017, and this game will be very similar to those. Very close, and a solid amount of points scored. Only difference? Tulane won those 2 games, Army will win here. 22) Western Michigan vs Toledo - 3:30, ESPN+: The Rockets have already picked up some nice wins this year, and here's a chance for another one. The Broncos can put up some points, and they have a solid defense. They'll have to make the most of every possession to win. 21) Ohio vs Buffalo - 3:30, ESPN+: These teams are close in nearly every statistical category, except for one. Ohio's Rush Defense isn't great, and Buffalo can run the ball. If the Bobcats can slow em down, they'll win. Otherwise, The Bulls win a close one. Potentially close Power 5 Games: 20) Vanderbilt vs Mississippi - 7:30, SEC Network: Vandy was in a dogfight with Northern Illinois last week, and now they have another tough game here. Ole Miss knows how to score, and if they scored 31 vs Bama last week, they'll score easily here. 19) Purdue vs Penn State - Noon, ESPN: If the Boilermakers were at full health, they'd have a legitimate shot here. Instead, without their big playmaker and starting QB, they need a miracle. Penn State should win easily, but they may not cover. 18) North Carolina vs Georgia Tech - 4:00, ACC Network: With the way the Heels looked last week, they should win easily here. Only issue is it's really hard to have that kind of performance week-to-week. If they don't play like that, GT may have a slim chance. 17) Oregon State vs UCLA - 9:00, Pac-12 Network: If the Beavers win this one, we'll know UCLA is in serious trouble. Oregon State's offense has looked very solid so far, scoring at least 28 in every game. If they get past that mark, they'll win. 16) Virginia Tech vs Miami - 3:30, ESPN: The Hokies got demolished by Duke last week, and most expected a close game there. Now, they're a 2 touchdown underdog this week. The U didn't look great last time out, and if they have the same issues, it'll be very close. 15) Northwestern vs Nebraska - 4:00, Fox: Both of these teams struggled mightily last week, with Nebraska getting pounded at home and NW struggling on the road. If NW doesn't win this one, it won't look too great for bowl eligibility. Nebraska also needs a win, to show they aren't a joke. 14) California vs Oregon - 8:00, Fox: This game will be decided exclusively by the Cal defense. They didn't look great against Arizona State last week, and now have a tougher test in Justin Herbert. If they get quite a few 3rd down stops, they have a shot. 13) Boston College vs Louisville - 12:30, ACC Network: The points should be flowing here, and it should come down to the end. Both teams run the ball really well, and can chuck it when needed. It'll come down to a late FG to decide the winner. 12) Ohio State vs Michigan State - 8:00, ABC: Will Ohio State set a season-low for points and still win? There's actually a realistic chance of this. Their lowest total of the year so far is 42, and Sparty allows 15 a game. They'll win, but they may not cover. Must-Watch Games: 11) Baylor vs Kansas State - 3:30, ESPN2: This could be one of the few defensive Big 12 games this year. Both teams have allowed 16 PPG this year, and can run the ball well. State lost a pretty important game last week, so they need this one bad. 10) Air Force vs Navy - 3:30, CBS Sports Network: Everyone loves a good triple-option battle. This game will be over within 3 hours, but there'll be plenty of drama. It will be close throughout, and it could possibly come down to some passing, ya never know. 9) Washington vs Stanford - 10:30, ESPN: If the Cardinal want a shot here, they'll have to ride their defense. Eason is a tough test for anyone, but some turnovers could lead to a close game. Stanford just needs to take advantage of said turnovers. 8) Pittsburgh vs Duke - 8:00, ACC Network: Pitt's game vs Delaware last week was only close since they rested their starters. Kenny Pickett and the rest of the offense will be ready for this battle. Duke crushed the Hokies last week, and we'll see if they have the same firepower here. 7) Oklahoma State vs Texas Tech - Noon, Fox Sports 1: Although they don't have the playmakers they had in years past, The Red Raiders should still have a shot here. If their D can make some stops and add some turnovers, they could win. 6) Texas vs West Virginia - 3:30, ABC: I'm not too impressed with Texas yet. They had a close game with Oklahoma State last time out, and now have this long road trip. Both teams are fresh off bye weeks, so they'll be rested and ready to score. 5) Arizona vs Colorado - 4:30, Pac-12 Network: This game could develop into a shootout, which is odd for Colorado. They're usually a defensive team, but they're putting up 36 points per game. Arizona is just as good on offense, so be ready for points. 4) TCU vs Iowa State - Noon, ESPN2: This game isn't the most important, but it will be very close. Both teams have solid defenses, and offenses that can score. Expect a 31-28 kind of game, and one that could realistically have OT. 3) UCF vs Cincinnati - 8:00 Fri., ESPN: This game hasn't been close the last few years, but it should change here. The Knights need to keep winning for a shot at a NY6 bowl, but Cincy has the home-field edge. It'll be closer than most years. 2) Iowa vs Michigan - Noon, Fox: If Iowa wants to be seen as a contender, here's the time to do it. They have this game, then they host Penn State. Michigan's D is very good, so Stanley will have a tough test, and may need a late drive to win. 1) Auburn vs Florida - 3:30, CBS: Is Auburn truly ready to contend for the Playoff? We'll learn if they are here. The Gators defense is tremendous, and I have faith in their backup QB. It'll be a slugfest that comes down to the wire.
A College Football Fan's guide to the Rugby World Cup: Team translation guide
Hi folks. As you may or may not have heard, the Rugby World Cup starts tomorrow in Japan. Or today rather, in a few hours to be exact. As a fan a long time fan of College football and new-ish fan of rugby, I thought I could help provide some context to world rugby by making some comparisons between rugby and another sport that has dabbled in both amateurism and “amateurism” and is dominated by a handful of elite powers. For each team competing in this years World Cup, I have found a college football equivalent. Which isn’t that hard as there are only 20 teams in the World Cup. This is mostly to inspire debate and discussion so feel free to disagree, but please know these comparisons are canon and irrefutable. Context International rugby teams are currently divided into Tiers, which are basically divisions based on historical strength and competitions. There are 10 teams in Tier 1, which can be considered like P5 teams in college football, 13 Tier 2 teams (think G5 and FCS teams), and then a bunch of others that really aren’t worth going into at the moment. In Tier 1 there are two main competitions, the 6 Nations Championship comprising of six European (or Northern) teams and the Rugby Championship comprising of 4 teams in the Southern Hemisphere. Now I know this may seem odd to CFB fans, but there are stereotypes to the type of rugby played in each hemisphere. In the North, the rugby is said to be slower and more methodical, a product of the wet and cold conditions they usually play in. Games here are supposed to be won by forward play in the rucks and scrums. Southern teams generally play with flair and speed in the backs, where games are won with intricate link up play. Obviously, these are just stereotypes, and probably are less relevant now then in years past. And fans will definitely support teams from their hemisphere when facing off against teams from the other side of the globe. Unless that team is England. Because fuck England. In Tier 2, the regions are much less uniform, but certain teams have acquired notoriety for playing a unique brand of rugby. Comparisons Southern Hemisphere teams (Where it just means moreTM) New Zealand = Alabama The one time a country should feel proud for being compared to Alabama. This shouldn’t be a huge surprise. In the past decade or so, both teams have been appallingly consistent in their domination of their respective sport. They both a never-ending conveyor belt of talented players, a style that is ruthlessly efficient, and fans that are, by this point, so accustomed to sustained success that I think they secretly like when their team loses a game every once and a while. It creates some intrigue before their teams inevitably outscore the remaining opposition by 50 points a game. Also, I think Steve Hansen, the New Zealand head coach, looks like an SEC head coach. Probably because of the jowls. Anyway, if you’re an Alabama/Patriots/Duke/Lakers/Yankees fan, save yourself the trouble and be an All Blacks fan. If you’re going to insufferable, at least be logically consistent. South Africa = Georgia (University not country) You could argue Clemson fits here, but I don’t think the Springboks have enough sustained success at that level to be compared to Clemson. I’m going with the Bulldogs. They’ve suffered some embarrassing losses in the past few years, but they are back baby. They have relatively new head coaches that are starting to reap the benefits of their play style and player development programs. They are right there with the All Blacks/Crimson Tide, and have played classic, incredibly tight games against their more dominant foe in the past two years. They have loads of historical pedigree but have spent the best part of the past decade going between phases where they were elite but not quite championship level and other times where they barely above mediocre. Australia = Florida Look, these teams have some issues right now. They were winners in the 90s and mid 2000s, but times have changed. They always have loads of talent on their roster, but they are deficient in a few key areas compared to the top, top teams. Still, it would be foolish for any team to write them off, and they have too much talent for most teams ranked below them to overcome. Also, their fans live in places with some of the nicest climates on earth yet live along nature that is constantly trying to kill them. Argentina = Missouri These guys are both newer teams to their conference/championship. And it’s been an awkward fit, both geographically and culturally. They made deep runs at certain times, they always seem to have fun players, but most of the time they’re just kind of there to play spoiler. Which is perfectly fine compared to other teams listed. Northern Hemisphere teams: Italy = Rutgers Speaking of which. Italy is Rutgers. Rutgers is Italy. They were recently added to the conference/championship when they showed some promise (and as a way to expand the conference/championship market). But man, it’s been a struggle. They’ve lost by embarrassingly large margins. They’ve lost by heartbreakingly close margins. But mostly they’ve just lost. It’s not easy being a Rutgers/Italy fan, but one of these days, by god, it will pay off. England = Ohio State Ugh. Everyone hates England. They even made an awesome commercial about it. Here, go watch it. And everyone hates Ohio State (source: Me). They both have annoying plant-based logos. They have more resources than all of their opponents. Their fans are smug and entitled. And worst of all, they generally are a very, very good squad. They have the athletic ability to adapt and play a variety of styles, usually better than their opposition. They are the only non-Southern team to win the CFB Championship/Rugby World Cup. Please don’t be an England fan. Wales = Wisconsin Well, they both start with ‘W’ so that’s something. Both seem to like the color red. If you’re looking for something more meaningful, you could say they both play a rather conservative style that relies on their forward/line strengths, and that they have been incredibly successful with this strategy in the past few years, compared to lows in the 80s and 90s. Scotland = Purdue No one becomes a Purdue/Scotland fan expecting to win the whole thing. You may even suffer some embarrassing loses along the way. But you can bet it will be a very entertaining experience. Purdue’s offence was once described as basketball on grass. And while I don’t think they know what basketball is in Scotland, it doesn’t take much to notice the similarities to Scotland’s fast-paced offence. And when they do pull off an upset, you have to admit they do it in style. France = Michigan State I would say both fan bases have become used to huge swings in quality from season to season. Both Michigan State and France are probably in a down period at the moment, but that just means they could lose to a minnow in one game, then upset the favorites the following one. They still have a talented player pool but are dysfunctional everywhere else. I mean, c’mon it’s France, were you expecting things to according to plan? It was brave of you to assume France had a plan in the first place. Nothing is for certain with these teams except for uncertainty. Ireland = Penn State This one was pretty tough. Both programs are going through good times in the last few years, especially compared to rough patches just a few years back. They’ve shown enough talent to compete and occasionally beat the best teams in the world on a given night, but can they do it consistently? And is their enough depth to sustain this run going forward? I don’t know, but you’ve beat England/Ohio State semi-recently, and they can’t take that from you. Tier 2 Teams Japan = Boise State -You pulled off an unforgettable, unbelievable upset against a great opponent. Great, now what. We’ll if you’re these teams, you’ve leveraged it to become a pretty consistent tier 2 power, one that can occasionally get a result against tier 1 team. And it’s not crazy to think they could upset a top tier 1 team again this year. But you need investment, and constant games against top opposition if you really want to join Tier 1. Too bad you won’t get that on regular basis. USA = Houston Fuck yeah. You have a lot of potential and have been able to upset a bigger team here and there. But you haven’t quite had the consistency of a Japan/Boise State. But if given some investment, and some more opposition against better teams, it’s conceivable that you will be able to become a powerhouse in due time. Just don’t bank on it happening in the few years. Fiji = UCF This is reach, for sure. I don’t think Fiji is quite at the level of UCF, but they’re not far off either. They could easily topple a bigger team this year, but they won’t be favorites against their Tier 1 opponents. The larger point for these comparisons for the Pacific Island nations is that, much like Florida for football, they produce a much larger share of talent than you would assume just by looking at their population, yet many of these players often do not play for their home nations for a variety of reasons. Of all the Pacific Islands, Fiji is the most well run. Therefore, they get to be UCF. Samoa= USF It wasn’t long ago that USF was the darling mid-major that was positioned to be the fourth power in the state. But due to mismanagement, that potential has largely been squandered recently. The talent is obviously still there, but will the programs be able to retain and develop it? Tonga =FAU Not as much prestige and not as much resources compared to the other two. Canada=Tulsa I think my rugby and CFB knowledge have been stretched to their limits by this point. Basically, both of these teams used to be pretty decent Mid-Major teams but have declined steadily over the past few years. Georgia (the country) = Wyoming Potentially dangerous to lower tier 1 teams and tier 2 nations but shouldn’t trouble the better tier 1 teams. Both situated in Mountainous regions. Uruguay = Delaware? I think Uruguay beat the USA recently. And Delaware probably beat an FBS team at one point. Russia = Morgan State Russia got walloped by Italy by like 75 points or something. In 2017, Morgan State lost to Rutgers by 65 points. Therefore, Morgan State = Russia +/- 10 points. Namibia = Nicholls They both start with ‘N’ and I can never spell either of them properly.
While gambling in the United States is legally restricted, sports betting in the country is gaining huge momentum quite lately. In fact, there are several states across the United States of America that are legalizing sports betting to enhance the entertainment aspect of the interested players. Lately, on 14th May 2018, the Supreme Court in the United States of America lifted its ban by revolutionizing the federal laws regarding sports betting. In its major decision, the Supreme Court in the USA made sports betting and a wide number of sportsbook apps legal within several states in the country. Since the ruling, around 11 states in the nation have legalized sports betting within the respective boundaries –including New Jersey and New York. States that have Legalized Sports Betting in the USA Some of the leading states in the USA that have legalized sports betting and wherein operating sportsbook apps are quite common are:
Arkansas: During November 2018, the residents of the state-approved the expansion of a casino gaming center in the state of Arkansas. This was achieved through voting on the election ballot during the midterm session. The state of Arkansas soon became the 8th state to legalize the act of sports betting & gambling in the United States of America. While sports betting is legal in Arkansas, the constitutional laws still do not permit the online forms of mobile sports betting in the state.
Since the legalization, around 54.1 percent of voters in the state have voted positive for being granted the license for casino gaming. The first-ever sportsbook to be opened in the state of Arkansas was Oaklawn Racing Casino Resort located in Hot Springs in the state. It has recently started its operations from July 1st, 2018.
Delaware: Since the decision made by the Supreme Court in 2018 towards lifting the ban on gambling in the USA, Delaware became the first-ever state to legalize the activity of sports betting in the region. In the year 2009, a law was passed in the state that allowed the lottery for offering the expanded types of parlay before the federal ban on gambling took place.
The state was capable of rolling out sportsbook quite instantly as it was selected to provide parlay sports betting during the entire ban. The sportsbook was designed within the casinos to be prepared for the day as they started becoming legal. All of the casinos started taking respective bets on 5th June 2018.
Illinois: The state legislature of the state of Illinois has passed a specific bill for legalizing physical sportsbooks along with online sports betting in the month of June 2019. Online betting did not take place in the first 18 months of the legalization. This was aimed at giving the casinos a kick start on taking the respective sports bets. In the state of Illinois, the sportsbooks are still awaiting the approval & legalization.
Indiana: Sports betting in this state received legalization on 8th May 2019. The law for sports betting in the state allows for mobile sports betting as well. The act of legalizing the mobile form of sports betting was initially not given permission in the bill. The laws for gambling and sports betting in the state of Indiana is known to prohibit the act of taking part in such activities to those who are below 18 years of age. Currently, around 13 locations all across Indiana have been given approval for taking bets. The process has started on 1st September this year. Out of the 13 locations, ten of them are casinos, and the remaining 3 locations are off-track betting portals.
Iowa: Iowa has legalized gambling and sports betting during May 2019. Under the respective law in the state, the individuals who are 21 years of age and older can take part in such activities involving gambling, online sports betting, using sportsbook apps, and so more. The casinos in the state that are responsible for organizing the sportsbooks should be able to protect the problem gamblers and respective accounts at the same time. In the state of Iowa, around 18 casinos have been granted permission for organizing sportsbook-related events.
Under the law, mobile sports betting has also been given approval. For the same, the individual is expected to travel to the casino for approving age as well as an identity while setting up an account. Registration for every individual is expected to commence from January 2021. The state will be launching the betting on 15th August.
Mississippi: Sports betting in Mississippi was legalized in the year 2018. Currently, around 23 locations are providing the facility of sports betting and gambling in the state. Moreover, mobile betting is only allowed for those who are physically present in the casino for gambling.
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On Circle's Edge, aka A Hater's Guide to the 2020 Professional Disc Golf Association Tour Season
Can this truly be called a Haters Guide? Well, ask yourself. Are there haters? I see haters. Is this a guide? I see a guide. So shut up and enjoy the shitposting, because it's not like there's much better going on unless you're in a hockey town or REALLY into baseball and even then, things might still be looking shit (looking at you Detroit.)
What is Disc Golf?
Disc Golf is the XFL to regular golf's NFL. Most of the stuff you like about the original, minus lot of the stuff you hate, and traditionalists need not apply. The players? Forget all the stuffy St. Andrews shit, t-shirts khakis and sneakers are fine. The gear? Forget bulky bags and exploited caddies, grab a backpack and you're all set. The pricetag? How does top of the line discs at $25 and greens fees of nothing strike you? The broadcast? Half an hour for the front 9, half an hour for the back, only watching the players at the top that you give a shit about. The commentators? Active touring pros who don't just know the course, they're PLAYING in the tournament they do commentary for. (Example: Round 1 on Friday, comms for round 1 on Saturday morning, then an afternoon tee time for round 2, and so on) The viewing experience? We've got all the tech - hole layout drone footage, slow mo shots, shot tracers, live scoring, you name it. The courses? A beautiful mix of lush open fairways, treacherous rough where the grass goes up to your waist, looming water hazards, and stalwart trees all standing between you and the basket. Sure these guys make it LOOK easy, slinging discs a mile with a casual flick of the wrist and curling them around trees like a goddamned Wanted sequel, but it's nowhere as easy as they make it look - that's why they're pros.
The Schedule
Every week there are dozens of Disc Golf tournaments around the world. But like regular golf, we don't give a shit about most of them because they're at amateur courses for amateur players. (I say this not as a jab against the Ams, they're still shitloads better than me. But B-tier and C-tier events aren't what this Hater's Guide is about.) In terms of tournaments we DO give a shit about, there's 20 of them: eleven Disc Golf Pro Tour events, (marked with the [DGPT] tag below) six PDGA National Tour Events, and four Major Championships.
Tier
Event
Dates
Location
DGPT
The Memorial Open
February 27-March 1
Fountain Hills, AZ
DGPT
Waco Charity Open
March 13-15
Waco, TX
National Tour
Texas State Disc Golf Championships
March 27-29
Tyler, TX
DGPT
Jonesboro Open
April 17-19
Jonesboro, AR
National Tour
Glass Blown Open
April 29-May 2
Emporia, KS
National Tour
Santa Cruz Masters Cup
May 15-17
Santa Cruz, CA
Major
US Womens Disc Golf Championship
May 22-24
Orangevale-Rocklin-Auburn, CA
DGPT
San Francisco Open
May 29-31
San Francisco, CA
Major
PGDA World Disc Golf Championships
June 13-20
Ogden, UT
National Tour
Beaver State Fling
June 26-28
Escadata, OR
DGPT
Portland Open
July 3-5
Portland, OR
Major
European Open
July 13-16
Nokia, Finland
DGPT
Great Lakes Open
July 24-26
Milford, MI
DGPT
Idlewild Open
August 7-9
Burlington, KY
DGPT
Discraft Ledgestone Insurance Open
August 13-16
Eureka, IL
DGPT
MVP Open at Maple Hill
August 18-20
Leicester, MA
DGPT
Discraft Green Mountain Championship
September 3-6
Smuggler's Notch, VT
National Tour
Delaware Disc Golf Challenge
September 11-13
Newark, DE
National Tour
Music City Open
September 25-27
Nashville, TN
Major
United States Disc Golf Championship
October 7-10
Winthrop University - Rock Hill, SC
DGPT
Disc Golf Pro Tour Championship
October 16-18
Charlotte, NC
If you're not the kind to go and watch people throw frisbees live, coverage for these tournaments will be found across youtube - JomezPro has been tapped to provide Lead Card coverage for all of the listed events except for the European Open. (TheSpinTV is likely to pick up that one) Second and Third card coverage will be provided by other channels like TheSpinTV and Central Coast Disc Golf. If you ARE the kind to go and watch people throw frisbees live (SeatGeek will not help you here, sorry ad buyers) you'll quickly get addicted. Or maybe weirded out. One of the two.
The Players
Right, the part of the Hater's Guide anyone gives a fuck about. Sorry it took a while, but I have to expect that most of you know about as much about disc golf as I did this time last year, which was fuckall. Obviously there's hundreds of players in each tournament field and it would be impossible to cover all of them, so let's just skip to the people we can reasonably expect to bring home hardware this year. Obviously I can't discount an unknown having a breakout year, but the stars are stars for a reason so let's stick to them. Paul McBeth - Discraft Ladies and Gentlemen, if you want either a perennial favorite to cheer on a la Tiger Woods, or a villain who exemplifies everything wrong with the sport a la...Tiger Woods, look no further than Disc Golf's Reigning GOAT. In 2019 McBeth made history, leaving Innova lured by an unheard of 4 year, $250,000/year sponsorship offer by their chief rival. He rewarded them by winning two majors bringing his total to TWELVE, shooting an 18-under par round for the SECOND time (no other disc golfer has accomplished the feat on the national stage) and having one of the most dominant years in recent history. In 2020 he's primed to continue his reign, though he did suffer a foot injury over the winter and just recently was able to walk without a boot. He should be fine, but injuries have bitten PMcB before - time will tell how he bounces back. Ricky Wysocki - Innova Champion Discs If McBeth is the Tiger Woods of disc golf, then Ricky is the closest you get to Phil Mickelson. Charismatic, incredibly talented, has a reputation for choking away titles he's got no business choking away, among his most recent the 2019 European Open where he had a 4-stroke lead going into the final round over McBeth - it didn't hold. That said, he's an incredibly gifted athlete and has shown his fair share of resilience - carding a +8 in the first round of the 2019 world championships and still bouncing back to get second place for example. (losing by a stroke to, who else? Paul) If there's any opportunity for the raptor to pounce, don't be surprised if he does it. Simon Lizotte - Discmania If you give no fucks about rivalries and sponsorship drama and just want to see long bombs, may I introduce you to the German wunderkind. Eight hundred feet from tee to green? No problem, that's maybe two shots on a slow day. Five hundred feet? Hmm...let's use a fucking PUTTER, that should be the right distance. He always puts up strong performances, and he's due for a few big wins on tour - the 2019 Portland Open slipped away on the 72nd hole, so you can be sure he's hungry for it. Eagle McMahon - Discmania The United States and obsession with one-upsmanship -name me a better duo. Easily able to match Simon with not only the crazy distance, but the crazy lines needed to get those absurd shots to actually work. While he's been known for stupid distance, the 2019 season showed that he's added another potent weapon to his game: finesse and touch. He's also got grit, playing the last round of the USDGC with a broken finger and still putting up a solid number - but his true test will be in his ability to keep it together. That broken finger? Self-inflicted when he punched his putter after a missed tap-in. That PDXO win that Simon choked away? Eagle got into a playoff, then blew it by throwing his tee shot out of bounds on the first sudden death hole. There's a high ceiling here, but will he keep himself in check to reach it? James Conrad - Innova Champion Discs The Man of A Thousand Putters, James has been a staple on tour for some time, finally claiming his first major in 2019 with a very overdue USDGC victory. With that monkey off his back, expect 2020 to be much of his same style of disc golf - calm throwing, calculated aggression, and nailing tight lines through the woods that can stop the rest of the field cold. And after all the close calls last year, the man is due for an Ace on the national tour - don't be surprised if Sportscenter gets a call. Kevin Jones - Prodigy Discs Prodigy is not the biggest manufacturer, and they have something of a reputation among the community that their players always seem to do better once they leave. KJUSA is the biggest star they have, and while he's been...pretty good under their deal, he's not shown some of the flashes of brilliance that people have expected. He's definitely got the talent, but if this season turns flat again, we could have another scramble in the free agent market. Emerson Keith - Latitude 64 Discs Emerson came out of nowhere in 2018 as a massive tournament grinder, playing SIXTY-SEVEN sanctioned tournaments during that tour season - many of them smaller B-tier or C-tier events, but it clearly worked for him as he capped off 2019 with a very impressive 4th place finish at Worlds, leading for the first three rounds before finally running out of steam against Paul and Ricky. He's still young, and another big charge at a big tournament title in 2020 should be seen as much more likely than not. Sleep on this kid at your own risk. Nate Sexton & "Big" Jeremy Koling - Innova Champion Discs The pairing of "Big Sexy" has been the leading voice of disc golf the past few years as the primary commentary crew for JomezPro and will be this year as well. Both long time veterans of the sport, they still have the arm speed and power to crush shots and hit tight gaps. Nate proved this by winning the Las Vegas Classic last week by two strokes, and Jeremy tied for second at the USDGC last year, losing to James by a stroke. Whether they're in the booth or on the course, it's never a bad video when they're in it. Brodie Smith - Discraft Yes, THAT Brodie Smith. The trick shot artist, ultimate frisbee magician, Basically-Sixth-Wheel-of-Dude-Perfect Brodie Smith. He's been picked up by Discraft on a one-year sponsor's exemption, and while I can't say I EXPECT anything out of him, the dude knows frisbees inside and out, so most of the skills should transfer pretty decently. Frankly I would expect him to stay around the B-tier events, maybe pop up for the occasional A-Tier and NT, but who knows? Maybe we'll see some Dark Horse Magic. Just...you know, don't bet on it. Paige Pierce - Discraft Yes she's the only woman on this list. No, she's not the only woman out on the course - the Woman's professional disc golf scene is just as vibrant and competitive as the male side, and to imply otherwise would be a grave offense to their skill and dedication. They just don't get the same airtime, whether that's warranted or right is a question I'll leave to non-shitposters. What is warranted is respect for Paige's ability to hang with the big boys, matching them with position and sound play even if she isn't the biggest bomber. Discraft recognized that, and rewarded the five-time world champion with a new contract to pry her away from Dynamic Discs - allegedly the same 4x250 they gave five-time world champion Paul Mcbeth last year. I'm not saying she'll reward them with the same dominance he did...but I wouldn't be shocked if she did. If you've been paying attention, you'll notice that yes, as I upload this the first round of the first of these 20 tournaments is live underway. Videos for round one will probably be up tomorrow afternoon, or you can use the UDisc app to check scorecards in real time. Or if you're not in a frozen over tundra, use the app to see if there's a disc golf course near you. Who knows? You probably won't be an overnight star, but you might just find a cheap hobby to get you out of the house when the Yinzer's away.
Sports Betting Revenues Falling Short of States’ Expectations
Legalized sports betting has failed to generate the revenue expected in Rhode Island. The state initially budgeted for $23.5 million in gambling related revenues for the fiscal year ending in June 2019 (began in Nov. ’18). The target was lowered to $11.5 million in January, but R.I. lottery officials are reporting that the state has posted just 1.3% of that total ($150,000) to date. Governor Gina Raimondo attributed the shortfall to “a little bit [of a] later start than we thought”; wagering volume ($250 million anticipated vs. $813 million projected) and gambler performance (better than expected) have also forced the need for a rebalancing of the budget. While it’s all but assured that Rhode Island will fall short of January’s revamped projection, it should experience significant revenue growth in 2020; Raimondo signed a bill last week that will permit online sports betting within the state. Howie Long-Short: The Patriots Super Bowl win contributed to a tough February for Rhode Island’s sportsbooks – the pair lost a combined $890,000 on $20.7 million in wagers during the month. They’re off to a better start in March, having raked in +/- $1 million over the first weekend of the NCAA tournament. The state is entitled to 51% of sports betting revenues (after expenses). Rhode Island is certainly not a proxy for the country – it has just 2 licensed casinos – but “most of the states” that have passed legislation since PASPA was struck down have fallen short of projections. It’s certainly no coincidence that like Rhode Island, all but New Jersey (which out-earned Nevada for the 1st time in Jan.) failed to establish mobile/online as an option. Rhode Island’s 2020 budget assumes sports betting will bring in $30.3 million in revenue, including $3 million in mobile fees. Democratic Senate President Dominick Ruggerio has acknowledged that the financial forecasts will need to be rebalanced (see: lowered) in the wake of fiscal 2019 results, but the nominal revenue Raimondo attributed to mobile – relative to the total income projected – makes me think they’re still getting bad “information” (or that they simply don’t understand the marketplace). New Jersey sportsbooks generated 80% of their January revenue from mobile and online platforms. Once Twin Rivers begins taking online/mobile bets, business will pick up. It will become easier for residents of the state to place wagers and with Massachusetts yet to legalize sports betting, the Rhode Island licensee should pick up some action from residents of the neighboring state (via the William Hill app). For reference purposes, FanDuel claims 9% of its New Jersey business comes from those living in New York and another 4% from those based in Pennsylvania. The 2020 budget assumes mobile sports betting will be available next winter, but there’s a current push within the Assembly to have it in place by the start of the NFL season. Rhode Island’s 2 casinos (Lincoln and Tiverton) are owned by Twin River Worldwide Holdings. On Friday, the company (which also owns the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Biloxi, MS) “added to its geographic base” closing on the purchase of Dover Downs Gaming & Entertainment. Shares of Twin River common stock subsequently began trading (at $29) on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol TRWH. Fan Marino: 75% of those who placed bets (against the spread) on the Super Bowl at Rhode Island’s 2 brick and mortar casinos took the hometown Patriots; as a result, the pair lost $2.3 million on the game. It’s not atypical for a sportsbook to take a loss on a big game – like the Super Bowl – when the hometown team covers. Fans bet with their hearts and the action tends to skew “towards the geographically favored team.” The books don’t move the lines to reflect the heavy action though, because doing so would leave them susceptible to sharp money (going the other way) taking advantage of mispriced odds.
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