I saw this posted at another site and figured I would copy and paste it, Brandon Lang had a movie made about him starring Al Pacino and Matthew McConaughey
Yes, for those of you who have been around a couple decades, the New York City company that Brandon Lang worked for was the disgraced company that was run by Stu Feiner.
No, this was not a movie that was paid/produced for by BIG Hollywood. The movie was made by an off-shore sports book.
Let's get to the "name thing". In the movie, they said his real name was Brandon Lang and when he went on to work for the boiler room Stu Feiner outfit, he was given a "power name" (John Anthony), just like all the scam outfits have always done.
His real Name is Brandon Link. During the first draft of the movie, they were using Brandon Long before settling on Brandon Lang. The irony is, after the movie came out, Brandon Link parlayed the hype and went into the handicapping business and now calls himself Brandon Lang.
There is a hint in the credits, for Brandon has a very short cameo appearance near the beginning of the movie. At the end of the film, he is credited as: Man Greeting Brandon #1 --- BRANDON LINK!
The story is related by Brandon Lang/Long/Link (Matthew McConaughey) who begins life as a sports hero and just at the moment when he is ready to break in to the Pro Football domain, he fractures his leg in a winning touchdown.
Noooooooooooooo, Brandon Lang/Lane/Link/Long was NOT a star college football quarterback that brought his team to a major Bowl game only to get injured in the final minutes. Think about it, did you ever hear his name? We all recognize the QB's that are in major bowl games. Hell, if you are a skeptic, just do a Google search!
He did hurt his knee though. You ask how? It was in a basketball pickup game that was being played at a local fitness center! The league was called THE SPORTING HOUSE LEAGUE. The name of the fitness center is The Sporting House. It's a few steps below a park district league.
There's a hilarious side story to Brandon's "injury story". Late last year, a college football writer telephoned Brandon Lang/Lane/Link/Long and told him that he's never heard of him and asked what college team he took to the bowl game. Brandon was caught off guard, but being the pathological liar he is, he came up with an amazing lie AGAIN! He copped to the fact that he never quarterbacked a bowl team and that indeed, he injured his knee in a fitness center league. He went on to claim that one day, UNLV basketball coach Jerry Tarkanian stopped by to watch a game (yeah, right) and that Coach Tarkanian told Brandon that he was good enough to be a walk-on for UNLV! By the way, that was during the hey days of the UNLV program and their National Championship run.
Want another lie? Sure you do! Was Brandon Lang/Lane/Link/Long a Las Vegas handicapper? Hell no! BLLLL was not a sports handicapper, or even a telemarketing salesman. He was a score phone announcer working for a major Las Vegas sports handicapping service. He was working for $6.00 an hour for a company that you know all about. (Hint: Initials of the owner are JF__ ) This major Las Vegas handicapping service is still going strong and you can see their sports handicapping INFOMMERCIAL Saturday mornings on cable TV. I know that you can fill in the blanks!
So, since he was NOT a handicapper, and had no reputation at all in the industry, how did he hook up with scamdicapper Stu Feiner?
Brandon's manager (at J__ F____ Sports) had many conversations with this infamous New York sports handicapper (Stu Feiner) that Al Pacino plays. The supervisor's job was to try to sell Stu Feiner 900 # score phone advertising and Brandon “The Wonder Boy” score phone announcer would read “Mr. New York's” advertising copy, or sometimes Feiner would call into Las Vegas to do a live feed. So, that's how the two of them first got together. After liberal tipping and spiffing, Feiner eventually convinced “Wonder Boy” to come New York and work for him. He just needed a guy for voice talent work.
The real truth about what happened at Stu Feiner's service is that Brandon Lang/Lane/Link/Long was such a failure at selling games (yep, he was one of those sports service salesmen that would tell you anything they could to get a buck from you), that he lost his job and became a caddie at a Los Angeles Country Club. Jim Feist would not rehire him. Due to his obvious narcissism, he liked talking so much about himself and stretching the truth to the men that he washed balls for that one hollywood-type believed him and searched for a way to get enough money to make the film.
Nobody bought it. Then, BoDog, an offshore sportsbook put up the money to pay for the film! Brandon Lang/Lane/Link/Long and BoDog made a business deal and they were marketing the relationship big time until they realized that the potential consumer to Brandon's picks (he was advising his members to use BoDog), would figure it out. The deal with BoDog gave Brandon Lang/Lane/Link/Long a kickback of the money that his clients lost when betting at BoDog! Why would BoDog want Brandon's action if he was winning?
Are we having fun yet?
Let's explore documented facts and the odds of betting on the outcome of events.
In the film, Brandon Lang goes 12 for 12 in his first try at handicapping the weekend. Let's examine this. According to the Las Vegas Gaming Commission (whose job it is to keep an eye on such things), in the history of football parlay card betting, NOBODY has ever won 12 for 12 on a football parlay card! Imagine how many thousands has tried? The odds of going 12 for 12 is a staggering 4894-1 against the bettor. An interesting note that is also on the Gaming Commission's historical report is that nobody has ever hit 12 for 12 on a Keno card in the history of betting despite hundreds of millions trying. According to the LVGC, the real odds of hitting 15 for 15 on a Keno card is 0.0000000000023 and it pays off $100,000 although the real odds are more than 51 billion to one against the bettor!So, are you ever going to grab a Keno card again?
So, what exactly was going on at Stu Feiner's company, the firm that employed BLLLL?
According to a comprehensive Sports Illustrated Story titled, "1-900-RIPOFFS", Abusing customers is SOP among sports advisers. "Gamblers are desperate people," says Arnie Wexler, executive director of the Council on Compulsive Gambling of New Jersey.
SI took a two-month test drive through the world of sports advisory services and found misleading ads, bait-and-switches, repeated claims of fixes coming down, misrepresentation of records, unforgivably high-pressured sales techniques, phone harassment, phone threats, phony guarantees, mail fraud, wire fraud and some perfectly dreadful manners. Even the pictures lied.
In investigating Feiner's tactics, an inspector for the Consumer Affairs Department called one of Feiner's 800 numbers to take him up on an offer of a free line on a game during the 1989 football season. The investigator spoke with a man known as Sonny Greco, also known as Phil Bonvino, a salesman for Stu Mitchell's Locker Room Report, still another service owned by Feiner. After a breathless, oath-laden pause-free speech, Greco went for the close. His pace was furious. The detective, posing as a customer named Stan, balked. Greco screamed louder.
Here is the audio taped conversation: Stan: I'm being bombarded here. Lemme think on it. I got a lot of guarantees here. Sonny: I'm not interested in anybody else you're call., Stan! The difference here is this, OK? We own this game tonight on oveunder! We own this information. Now go get your credit card, and let's start making money! You don't need to deal with anybody but me! Stan: Wait� Sonny: I own this game in oveunder! I have the winner! Tonight! No what's your credit card number? Stan: OK, lemme get back to you. Sonny: Stan, you're not going to call me back! You know it as well as I do, and if you think I'm going to let you off the phone with that ___, you're crazy! OK? I've got the winner tonight! I own this game in over-under, and I'm going to own your bookmaker's ass! So get your credit card out and let's get going! Stan: Lemme tell you what we're gonna do. I'm gonna think about it. Sonny (louder still): Stan, there's nothing to think about! Click. Greco is ruthless, loud and scary. No wonder Feiner has given him his own sports service-Phil Bonvino's Locker Room Report. Says a former phone tout for a large Long Island service, "There were plenty of times when we'd tell a guy, 'Look, if you don't come across, I'm gonna tell your wife you're gambling again.' Or we'd tell high school kids that we were going to tell their parents." Says the ex-salesman for Kevin Duffy, "We'd call up anybody, even guys we knew were going to Gamblers Anonymous. We'd stay on them." Question: How do sports advisers get away with it? Better question: Who are customers supposed to complain to? Gamblers don't want to turn anybody in because most of them are breaking the law themselves. As a result, the touts go unpoliced. Soon clients got a clue and stopped paying. That's when the people from the Seasons Edge group "got heavy-handed," says Robert Schroeder of the office of the US Attorney in Atlanta. "They'd threaten to kill members of the family, burn down their homes." One victim was told if he didn't send more money, he'd be "chopped up into little tiny pieces with a chain saw." Gamblers were bilked out of $413,000 before a victim's parents finally called the FBI when their son, a college student, lost his tuition money and resorted to using his father's credit card to try to obtain his "refund." Schroeder nailed conspiracy, wire fraud and extortion convictions on 12 people. They got the full package sentences ranging up to 87 months in jail.
It is also a business in which profits can be enormous, some services are believed by at least one close observer of the industry to make as much as $1 million annually. Last year the people at the New York City Department of Consumer Affairs looked into the advertising practices of the sports adviser business and came away with their hair on end. "These have been among the most egregious, outrageous claims we've ever encountered," says a department attorney, Fred Cantor.
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"I remember once a guy needed a bailout game real bad," says a former salesman for a major tout operating out of New York City. "He was buried, so he wanted to put two or three dimes [$2000 or $3000] down on something good. I said I had a lock for him. I put him on hold, and I went into my boss's office and I said, 'Who do you want to pick, the Jets or Minnesota?' And he said, 'Take Minnesota. My mom likes purple.' So I gave this poor sucker Minnesota based on some lady's favorite color. He lost." Ripoffs Rule the Roost.: "The Source", a sports adviser service in Farmingdale, NY, owned by Stu Feiner, who also owns a few 900 call-in lines. Another exhibit is Feiner's brother-in-law, the aforementioned Kevin Duffy, perhaps the nation's most successful scamdicapper, who became famous for running ads that said, "I will go 7-0 for you today, absolutely free." Too bad "absolutely free" meant you first had to sign up for a month's service at $350. Then, if Duffy didn't go 7-0 in the first week, you got the next month free. Duffy, who operates out of Massapequa, Long Island, also claimed to be no worse than 75% right, ever. Yet when his picks were audited by the Sports Monitor of Oklahoma City, one of the rare legitimate monitors (among the dozens of such outfits that purport to keep tabs on the performance of tout services), he never fared better than 58.8% in any regular football season between 1985 and 1988, and he sank as low as 39.7% for his college picks in 1987. Eventually the Sports Monitor refused to monitor Duffy because of his "deceptive ad practices." Stu Feiner agreed to be monitored by SI for four weeks in September. To his credit, he unfailingly gave us his choices. To his discredit, Feiner went 19-32, a 37% win rate, and lost us an imaginary $6,210 based on $100 per unit. During that same period, we were anonymously calling Feiner's 800 number, where, curiously, he claimed to be cleaning up. On Sept. 23, for instance, after Feiner had gone 3-11 for the week on his picks for SI, bringing his record for us to 11-25, one of his shills, Kenny Leeds, said in response to our anonymous call, "This week I [meaning the company] went 3-0, the week before, I was 3-1." On Oct. 3, after Feiner had gone 7-7 for the weekend, we again called anonymously and got another Feiner salesman, Larry Marco. "This past weekend, we swept the board," Marco said. Then Leeds called back. "This kid Feiner is making betting history," he said.
Yeah, so did Art Schlichter!
For you youngsters, Art Schlichter was a first round draft choice (DUDE HAD MAJOR SKILLS) as a quarterback coming out of Ohio State in 1982; what's more, he enjoyed an image so wholesome his biography was titled Straight Arrow. But Schlichter gambled away his $350,000 signing bonus during his rookie season with the Baltimore Colts. He was suspended and reinstated the next year, after declaring he had the disease of compulsive gambling for which he had gotten help. In 1985, he was cut by the Colts and never played football again. If success started Schlichter's addiction, failure really fueled it. In 1988 he declared bankruptcy, referring frequently to his disease. Schlichter's ex-wife, Mitzi Schlichter, helped found the Custer Gambling Treatment Center in Indianapolis after she left her husband in 1994. Schlichter, meanwhile, has spent four of the six years since then in prison. In 1997, he was pulled out of a court-ordered gambling treatment program and hauled back to jail when he was caught betting. Schlichter is currently awaiting trial on money laundering charges and stealing ************, all revolving around taking money, often from family members, in order to gamble. Schlichter takes no responsibility for his misbehavior — and, despite harping on his disease and although his wife created her own gambling treatment center, Schlichter has never shown any inclination to fly straight.
Feiner was fined $13,000 in February 1990 by the New York City Department of Consumer Affairs for false and misleading advertising, yet he sent out a promotional brochure last month that reported a "1991 documented record college and pro: 9-3." Knowing Feiner's record as we did, we asked him how he could say this. "That's what I had the first week." he said, before you started documenting me." Fine. That would've been the weekend of Aug. 31-Sept. 2. The booklet, however, was dated Sept. 19-Oct. 7, 1991. During one of our anonymous calls, Leeds told us he had "strong information" on a game he wanted us to buy, so strong it was a dead mortal lock, so strong that he was putting $2000 of his own money on the game. We were dubious.
Here's the audio taped conversation: Leeds: You don't believe me? I'll fly you out here [from Colorado]. SI: Fly me out there? Leeds: I'll fly you to __ Long Island, and I'll have you take a ride with me! SI: Why? Leeds" To see how I pick it [his winnings] up and where I pick it up from. SI: Can you fly me out this week? Leeds: What I'm saying is�I'm using that's a little bit of a mild exaggeration. Don't get me wrong, but I've met a lot of my clients. I've met Dan Marino. SI: You know Dan Marino? Leeds: Well, I stood next to him at the Super Bowl, and my friend took my picture with him. Feiner says that if somebody calls his 800 number and doesn't sign up, "We'll call him every day for a couple months, because eventually they'll change their minds.
"Mike Warren (real name Mike Laskey - a degenerate horse bettor who was run out of business by the United States Attorney and fined heavily) is a former pathetic handicapper and a tremendous con artist," says Feiner. Says Warren, "Stu Feiner? He's got a big mouth, always talking big. He knows this hoodlum and that hoodlum-gonna break my legs. You know what? He can't break an egg. I gave him my address. He's so short, the only thing he can reach is my legs." Mike Warren was ordered by The United States District Attorney to run major advertisements in which he had to admit his frudulent claims of success.
If you think guys like Feiner and Warren will make you wish you have never installed your phone, Atlanta's John L. Edens, alias Johnny DeMarco, the Babe Ruth of 900 sales pitchers, will make you wish Alexander Graham Bell had never been born. According to published ads and SPORTS ILLUSTRATED taped phone calls, Edens:
Got on his 800 line and told listeners to call his 900 line for $25, "and if the game loses, there'll be no charge." That, of course, is a lie. Once a call is made on a 900 line, the charge is automatic.

• Told customers of one of his phone services that his special guest selector that day was "a former six-time NBA basketball All-Star who wishes to remain anonymous due to security matters." The anonymous "All-Star" then got on the line and offered his inside information on "three big plays, tonight."
  
• Told his customers on another occasion, "Sporting Illustrated magazine calls the Handicapping Hotline the Number One value in sports." Remarkably, there is no Sporting Illustrated.
  
• Wrote in a print ad, which appeared in the schedule of games he sent out to customers in early 1991, that his service was rated "the very best available by the Interstate Sports Commission, the nation's only legitimate monitoring service." The ad failed to mention that the ISC is owned by a company with which, DeMarco acknowledges, he is "affiliated."
  
• Got on his 800 line in March 1989 and said he had spoken with then N.C. State coach Jim Valvano and had "key" information on the Final Four. Valvano says he has never spoken to DeMarco.
  

Scripts at the a New York based sports service? Yep, The New York Consumer Affairs Commission got their hands on one! It will frighten you.
Here it is:
It read: "I'm glad I got ahold of you in time! We are releasing our biggest information game of the ____ (month/season) going off ___ (day of week). Now, ___ (name), listen carefully. Our inside sources have tipped us off to this game. We know exactly what's going to happen. We know the winner. (Lower voice) It's the kind of game I can't even talk about over the phone-you follow me, right? (Response) OK Good�All you gotta do is cover me with $___ How do you do it, **** or **********?"
The fix scam is essential to a tout's repertoire. "You'd lower your voice way down," says one employee who worked for this company for four years, "and you'd say, 'Is this line clean? No taps on it, right? OK Listen, we've got information on this game. you know what I'm saying? The winner of this game was already decided in a hotel room."
"You'd be talking with grown men who were crying on the phone," says one former tout Stu Feiner salesman "Guys who were losing everything but still betting. And I'd lie awake in the middle of the night hoping the guy would win. So I'd call the sports phone and get a late West Coast game at 4 a.m. and go, 'Damn, he lost again."
"It was like feeding drugs to an addict," says the ex-salesman. "We'd try to take whoever we got and make them bet more. We'd take college kids who were betting $25 and say, 'Hey, you got to bet $500 on this game. If you don't bet a nickel I'm not gonna give it to you.' If they won, they got a taste for big money. If they lost, they were desperate to get out [of the hole], and so they start chasing. How can anyone who works for Kevin and Stu have a conscience? Basically, I was just hurting people." And that, unfortunately, is the only absolute lock SPORTS ILLUSTRATED found.
Here's a recent publication about BLLLL: We figured we'd check in with handicapping schizo Brandon Lang/Lane/Link/Long to see how he’s been doing since Two For The Money tanked at the box office, completely shattering any hopes for him elevating his career past that of an internet free pick hustler. Well, from the looks of it, the movie bombing may have rattled the golden boy's cage a bit as he stated in his open letter to his “clients” this month about his recent 1-12 (That’s ONE WIN AND TWELVE losses! He wrote on his own site: “You see the records above. I can't be any more honest, any more truthful. I've never been a guy who hid his losers, because like I say, if I can brag about the winners, I've got to own up to the losers. I've owned college football in October. I absolutely sucked in the NFL. Can't be more direct than that. As you know, and as you've heard me say on hundreds of radio interviews and on national TV, I don’t win everyday. Cant and won’t. Simple as that. Some days you have to give back to your man some of the money you won off of him. It happens. Always has, always will. The past two weeks I've been dreadful in the NFL. Not the first time, not the last. It’s a long season. There will be ups and downs. And that's why you've got always stay within your limits and follow my money management advice. Now, of course, for those of you that came aboard the past two Sundays or Mondays for the first time, what can I say other than I lost? I mean, I'm not going into your homes, ordering you to buy. And I have no control over when you buy for the first time. But, I certainly understand you're disappointed. And that's the nature of the business, and you know it as well as me. We win together, we lose together. And whether winning or losing, you expect the truth, and that's what I'm giving you. The past two weeks in the NFL were awful, but as I always say, if you're with me for the long haul, you should make money.
"This is a marathon, not a sprint, to make money.” Yes, those of you unfortunate enough to spend money on Brandon's services — $679 for 100 days — must be thrilled with that apology. Brandon Lang is the paid handicapping equivalent of Enron at this point. But those of us who are Brandon Lang fans can at least take solace in the fact that Two For The Money will most likely be seen on East Coast flights to Vegas in the next couple weeks. ANOTHER DOCUMENTED STORY: "More of Brandon Lang’s Genius" Finally, we've happened upon some information about our friend Brandon Lang/Lane/Link/Long and his curious background that we think should finally allow us to rest our weary heads about this. A classmate of Brandon's from high school e-mailed us to give us the whole rundown on what's real, what's not, and what's ridiculous about the mysterious Mr. Lane/Lang/Link: Brandon Link: I went to high school with him; that's his real name. The Lane and Lang came later. He was a reserve player on his HS team, came off the bench, usually tried to do too much, fancy passes, etc. Could hit the outside shot, and was effective when he played under control, but he was no star. The claim in the article in his hometown paper that he was planning to walk on at UNLV after his stint in the Navy (before an injury sidelined him) led to a lot of chuckling. He couldn't start for a mediocre white boy HS team yet he was going to walk on at UNLV during the glory years? His pre-Internet gambling show was on PASS, a Detroit sports cable station. That's when he came up with the nickname “The King”. At his 10-year reunion he showed up in a car with the license “1-900-KING”. By the way, how's that for arrogance? At the reunion he drove up in that car, and one guy we know went up to him, pointed at the license, and said “1-900-KING? What is that, some +++ phone line?” Brandon was too shocked to respond. When I saw the movie trailer last week and saw a shot of that license, I cracked up. He wasn't a bad guy, just a blowhard who overestimated his abilities. It’s clear from his current PR blitz that that tendency is still there.
ANOTHER PUBLISHED STORY: "Brandon Lang/Lane/Link Fluffs McConaughey" Crazy-ass toutster Brandon Lang/Lane/Link, the sports handicapper whose life is retold in the box office clunker Two For The Money, took some time out from his busy schedule of promoting himself and making crappy picks to talk about Matthew McConaughey’s portrayal of him in the movie for, well, we guess his own website: “Matthew is a big sports fan and has been known to try his luck in the Vegas sportsbooks. In speaking to Matthew prior to shooting the movie, the dialogue in the script told him all he needed to know. The emotions that he had to draw to in order to play me were right there because he’s a sports bettor himself. I was thrilled to death with how Matthew played me in the movie and the roller coaster ride he takes viewers on properly portrays what I went through. One of the greatest compliments I've ever received in my life came from Matthew, he said “Thank you for bringing me a character where I had to dig down and draw on the emotions that every actor dreams about. This was by far my most enjoyable role.” Aw…who has warm fuzzies? We hope “Matthew” enjoyed the crap out of this role because we're pretty sure his leading man stock dropped around 30 points in the eyes of Hollywood after another stinker.
WANT ANOTHER PUBLISHED STORY?
Tout service guru and four-named evil genius Brandon Lane/Link/Lang/Long, whose story is being “retold” in Two For The Money has hooked up with omnipresent sportsbook Bodog for a special partnership and changed his name again in the span of 48 hours. In a press release Friday morning Bodog proudly gushes about their new partnership with Brandon LANG:
“Brandon Lang, the man who rocketed to fame as a sports handicapper, and Bodog.com, the company that revolutionized online entertainment, have teamed up. In an agreement signed earlier this week, Lang and Bodog will work in conjunction to build a dynamic Bodog presence on his website Brandon Lang . Lang is the subject of the Hollywood film Two for the Money, whose premiere was sponsored by Bodog.
“Teaming with Brandon Lang seemed like a natural for us,” says Bodog Founder and CEO Calvin Ayre. “We're very excited to be working with one of the most successful handicappers in the world.” Obviously, Lang's not-so-impressive record suggests he probably should not be the subject of a sports handicapping film. Apparently, superstud football picking phenom BLLLL has yet to recapture the magic touch of his youth which prompted the release of his life story on the big screen in the upcoming Two For the Money. So far this year, Lane's free picks have been rather ordinary to say the least. Brandon's free pick tally so far this year? 5-8-1. His pre-season picks? 0-3.
Could his poor record have anything to do with the time he's spending on a second career? A la Hollywood movie star? Having Matthew McConaughey play you in a film will most certainly go to anybody's head we are sure. ........................................ ..................
But then I found this little thing on IMDB. Here's the link, (pun intended!).
Two for the Money (2005)
Here is the LINK with his cameo/five second acting career!
Two for the Money (2005) - Full cast and crew
Apparently our buddy Brandon is also an aspiring actor. Or he may have thought the small, uncredited cameo role he played in Two For the Money deserved an IMDB mention. And be sure to check out the photo page, which appears to show a picture of Lang/Lane/Link/Long dressed in some sort of pajama outfit standing in a family room with a deranged look on his face. We hope that's his family room and not some random family whose home he invaded.
And whose head hasn’t exploded yet? They ask. Jesus Christ. If this does not make blood squirt out of your eyes, what will?
First there was the unreserved excitement of Brandon “Lane” and his web page at Big Green Machine, which openly complains about the fact that the name was changed to “Lang” in the movie: “Funny thing - they changed by name to Brandon “Lang” for “artistic” purposes. Damn if I know what that means, but it’s still me no matter how they spell my last name!”
Then in the Lansing State Journal there is nice fluff piece about Midland, Michigan native Brandon “Link” and his experience about having a movie made about his life.
Then there was the IMDB (Internet Movie Database) page he made for himself under Brandon “Link” because of his stirring uncredited role in Two For The Money.
And now we have Bodog partnering with Brandon Lang, replete with a spanking new website for Brandon Lang with no acknowledgment anywhere of the fact that this man is out of his ****ing skull.
ANOTHER DOCUMENTED PUBLICATION WROTE - "Brandon Lane: Enjoying 15 Minutes More Intensely Than Most"
Friday marks the nationwide opening of the Matthew McConaughey, Al Pacino gambling drama Two For the Money, loosely based on the life of former superstud handicapper Brandon Lane. Lane was a former college football player who turned his freakish ability to pick football games into a lucrative career for a tout service. Well, Brandon has himself a website and from the looks of it, he’s really proud of himself and this movie coming out. He also appears to have a little problem with containing his own excitement, even in two paragraphs: People, just had the Vegas premiere last night and it was fantastic. The Palms gave me a great suite and the photo ops were fantastic. This is what I worked hard for and now its my time to turn it on. The Chargers on Sunday, Green Bay on Monday and now “75 Dime” winner #2 in a row goes tonight. I like this MAC game and will deliver a nice winner. October thru January have always been my months. I have won more in those months than any other month. Not by accident but by design. I watch, I see, I adjust and I win. Your job is to jump on board, ride me and win money. It is in this run that you will see why they decided to make a movie about me. Nobody else, but me. Over the long haul, I will make you money. Sometimes in the midst of your losing streak, you don’t think so but this business is not about a day, a week or a month. It is about the year. You roll with me and you are not only a customer today, I want you for life. I want you part of my family. You give me that chance to earn you money and together, we will own your man. Lets own him tonight. Well, that's a little ****ing insane. Anybody else want to bump chests or break a chair over somebody's head? But if you were wondering Two For the Money opens Friday. It’s based on Brandon's life. Jump on him and ride him to the money or something. It'll be fantastic.
And so it goes...There's a sucker born every minute.
One last point..A quote from BLLLL's website that will tell you all that you need to know. "Listen, they only make movies about winners - and that's me!"
How many movies have you seen about losers? Gosh, just last night, I was watching Nick Cage's "Leaving Las Vegas". Was he a winner? The list could go on all day!
ANY QUESTIONS? No thanks. Please cease calling our office to have one hour conversations about this DOCUMENTED FRAUD. Soon, the hype will be forgotton and BLLLL will be washing men's balls again.

The conversation I am going to post below is the very tip of our iceberg. For as long as I can remember, my Uncle has nailed every bullet point on someone who suffers from NPD. We had a rocky relationship while I was a teen (I'm 30 now); I wanted to pursue wild dreams, like he did, and he wanted to show me "tough love" by threatening our relationship unless I went to college. I ultimately didn't go to college and pursued my dreams, of which I'm currently making a living in now.
In the last seven years, I have mindfully and diligently worked to try and bridge the gap between us. 100% of the time I speak to him or am with him in person however he takes every opportunity he can to change the topic from whatever I'm speaking about to something about himself instead, degrade me in front of his colleagues, or start an argument out of, well, nothing. I mean that very literally. I have spent seven years not reacting, not responding, and walking away quietly from every situation, either forgetting it or venting privately to a third party, all of which were tactics I learned in therapy and in reading how to live a quiet, mindful lifestyle. At one point earlier this year I tried to communicate to him that things just weren't okay with us. I asked if we could meet in person and discuss it, and he refused again and again until I forced the issue. Then, in-person at a restaurant, he made up stories for why I annoy him until I finally angrily put my foot down and told him enough was enough. Then he told me he might have cancer, so I dropped the communication topic at that time. At the same time, my step-father was about to start treating for cancer, and shortly after this restaurant conversation my uncle became irate at me that I should dare feel upset at my step-father going through chemo when he, my blood uncle should have my sympathy. They both had my sympathy, but this upset him because he felt he should "rank higher." (My uncle didn't end up having cancer after all, for what it's worth.) The communication conversation never continued. Today, I broke. I broke my cool. I broke everything. I need help. I can't continue like this. The reason I seem to get heated as the conversation goes on is because this is something that happens so often with him that I just... snapped in a way I've never been able to snap before. He's a hair stylist, and any time I ask him about some sort of technique or how something works, he immediately launches into "Did your redneck hairstylist friends tell you about that?" or "Oh, did you read all about that online? I bet you think you could do my job now, huh?" All from just asking about a style or technique. I'm at a loss.
Context: I asked him about a procedure I was considering to deal with facial scarring. He's had several procedures, so I felt like he could give me a good insight. He recommended his dermatologist.
[11:19:15 AM] UNCLE: Don’t ask him. Just tell me when you are going to see him and I’ll remind him who you are. We have a special friendship and business arrangement. But don’t tell him I told you that.
[11:29:00 AM] ME: Okay :) what’s the recovery time like? If I have to be out in public and social from Nov 1-14th, and then again over thanksgiving, what’s your recommendation for time I should allot to healing and not being out in the sun and around people?
[11:57:44 AM] UNCLE: It depends on what you’re doing? Girls, I’m having dinner with Dad and [DAD'S WIFE].
[UNCLE'S BOYFRIEND] is coming with me. [UNCLE'S BOYFRIEND] is betting that she’ll find some way to cancel.
[11:59:55 AM] ME: When!? [12:00:15 PM] UNCLE: What do you two think will happen?
Friday night.
[12:00:27 PM] ME: And I guess I'll need to ask a dermatologist their recommendation, but I want to discuss whatever procedure is best for eliminating acne scarring/red pigmentation/dark spots on the face.
I've read about everything from the different kind of lasers to acid peels to Dermabrasion
[12:01:55 PM] UNCLE: They have to check out of their hotel at noon. So they are going to spend the day in [OUR CITY] until the red eye flight back to [DAD'S CITY] at 11pm
So she’s kind of forced to do it.
If he does that it will probably be something less aggressive so I don’t think it will be that bad. You’ll just have to wear a high spf sunscreen on it.
[12:03:55 PM] ME: I have a lot of old scars that, after like... two years of at-home, over-the-counter acid peels and medicated washes had begun to really start fading, but now they're back with a vengeance, so I'm exasperated at the idea of spending years combating scarring and pigmentation and spotting again.
[12:05:17 PM] UNCLE: The type of microdermabrasion he does on me is for older people like me to get rid of lines and wrinkles and tighten collagen, that’s why it’s a little more brutal when I do it.
[12:05:31 PM] ME: Gotcha. Does microdermabrasion hurt in general?
And what's the recovery time on something like you have done? If it's more aggressive it'd obviously be a longer recovery time. Is he still in [OUR CITY]? As in, should I call the same office I went to before?
Sorry, rapid-fire questions.
[12:06:54 PM] UNCLE: Not really. It’s like a bad sunburn but there’s a protocol after wards that keeps it soothed. The worst is over in 4-5 days.
After that you just have to keep it heavily sunscreens and wear a hat when you’re out doors.
That’s why it’s best after daylight savings time is over and there’s less intense sun.
[12:08:36 PM] ME: Hm. I'm not finding him on Google. Let me see if I can find him on my insurance's website. [12:10:21 PM] UNCLE: But you need to be seen by a doctor and not depend on google. You only have a few months of your good insurance left. You should see someone Pronto. It may take a few months of treatment and [STATE INSURANCE] won’t pay shit on it.
[12:11:59 PM] ME: I'm not relying on Google. I just don't like going into something blind. I think that's a massive issue with people today. They don't read about anything or try and learn about a topic entirely.
Reading about my issue is what made me think, "You know what? I can't tackle this alone. I need to see a doctor."
[12:13:32 PM] UNCLE: The problem with millennials is they do all their research on the internet and take it as the holy grail. Nothing replaces going straight to the scource and having a fave to face interaction with an expert.
[12:13:47 PM] ME: lol you're making a lot of assumptions, [UNCLE].
I'm not taking anything as "a holy grail"
And maybe if your generation did more research independently we wouldn't have Donald Trump as president :P
[12:15:42 PM] UNCLE: It’s come to a crisis situation for trained professionals, Doctors, Lawers, realtors, hair stylists, etc. we have to battle with our clients to have them let go of a lot of facts that don’t pertain to there situation.
[12:15:48 PM] ME: Shit, in fact, I went into my OBGYN last week and said, "I'm having this acne issue that I think is because of the hormones. It started within 24 hours of having the IUD. I read a lot about hormones before coming here so I could answer any questions you have, and I wanted to talk to you about the medicines I read about and your thoughts on them" and she was IMPRESSED that I came equipped with questions about my options.
You're being extreme; no one is saying they know more than you or those professionals.
But it's absolutely detrimental and dangerous to not encourage people to independently learn about a subject before going into something.
[12:16:56 PM] UNCLE: A lot of people your age voted for Trump or worse yet did not vote at all because they didn’t like Hillary.
[12:17:01 PM] ME: This is my face; I want to know what different procedures do or what I might be doing or not doing at home that's helping or hurting me.
Okay but now you're changing the topic - my point was don't admonish people for reading up on topics from credible sources on their own in order to understand a situation they're dealing with better.
[12:19:03 PM] UNCLE: I voted all Democrat all my life. Every one I know did not vote for him. I’ve also voted in NY at pints in my life I was living there. And I always voted Democrat.
[12:19:31 PM] ME: Example, I told my OBGYN, "I read that Advil doesn't mix well with spironolactone. I take Advil often. Is that going to be a problem for me?" And she said, "Nope, you would have to mix a lot of those to have bad side effects." BAM, simple, done. I asked a question, she answered, all good to go.
[UNCLE], this isn't about Trump! I was making a point that research isn't bad! There is NOTHING WRONG with asking questions to the professionals in your life about things you want to know about. And in order to form those questions you have to LEARN ABOUT THE TOPIC. Jesus. What's wrong with that?!
[12:21:56 PM] UNCLE: I left [STATE] the year I started voting and my voter registration there was not submitted be a neighthat came to our house to registered me. When I told her I was going to vote for Carter and not Reagan she was very upset with me. On Election Day when I went to vote my registration was never turned in.
[12:22:11 PM] ME: I don't even know how to respond to you anymore.
[12:25:36 PM] UNCLE: So it’s not my age group alone responsible for Trump it is the bratty millennials that didn’t get their BERNIE it’s also the people of PA, OH, MI, and WI that is full of ignorant people who believed all the fake news provided by Russia and FOX News. [SISTER] you’re not included in this of course, you voted and live in a Blue city. Most of [CITY] voted for Trump.
[12:25:58 PM] ME: Oh, my God. I'm going to assume you're high as fuck on pain killers, [UNCLE]. Put your phone down.
[12:26:35 PM] UNCLE: So PLEASE never again include me or my friends and peers in a statement like that again.
[12:27:18 PM] ME: Okay, well, don't lump me in with "the millenials who do their research online and take that as the holy grail" then, cool? Simple. Pot, kettle, black, yadda, yadda. Unfortunately I can't find [DERMATOLOGIST] on Google or on my insurance's website.
[12:29:34 PM] UNCLE: As far as the googling of professionals and going to them with your reasesrch and then challenging them why don’t you google some articles what professionals go through with patients and clients when they think they learned all the facts on google.
[12:29:45 PM] ME: NO ONE IS CHALLENGING ANYONE. [UNCLE], you're so dramatic. So, so dramatic. Stop. It's stupid. No one is challenging anyone. No one is vying for power here. No one is going in pretending they know more about a subject than the professional they're seeing. NO ONE. That's not happening. That's not happening with me. It is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY okay to read up on a topic before, during, and after your time you spend with a professional of any type. I'm sorry if you've personally had people challenge you but get off your high horse with me. You're being absolutely ridiculous. Stop.
[12:31:59 PM] UNCLE: It’s funny because [UNCLE'S BOYFRIEND] and I go through this every day in our professions and many times it results in the person not getting the results they want because they don’t follow what they say. Mostly because they want to take the cheap way out then it blows up in their face. We both make a ton in corrective work. I’m already experiencing that in Real Estate
[12:33:16 PM] ME: I seriously can't have this conversation with you. It's not funny. None of this is "funny." It's why I feel like we have a shitty relationship and why I don't trust you or feel close to you. I tried to bridge this gap with you in the past and you shut me down. Seriously, I'm not doing this with you, [UNCLE]. And I'm glad we had this conversation in front of [SISTER] because she can see in real-time how frustrating it is to have any sort of conversation with you.
[12:33:23 PM] UNCLE: Anyway do what you want, you’re going to any way.
[12:33:46 PM] ME: Yeah, no. I'll find my own dermatologist. We're done with this conversation. Looking forward to hearing about Dad. Good luck.
[12:34:17 PM] UNCLE: Great, I’m glad she can see this. It all started because you challenged my first several texts on this. Go back and look.
[12:34:49 PM] ME: NO ONE IS CHALLENGING YOU. GET OVER YOURSELF.
[12:35:06 PM] UNCLE: All I told you is that you should go to my doctor who is tried and true. You asked me for a recommendation then challenged me on all my answers. This is amazing because you are behaving this way. I’ve been really going to bat for you with your father.
[12:36:41 PM] ME: No one is challenging you, [UNCLE]. Stop being so fucking insecure. Stop.
[12:37:24 PM] UNCLE: Never the less I am proud of you and I love you so super much and I will always fight for you. This is just a small argument and it’s kind of silly when you think about it. We’re both such hard heads
[12:38:24 PM] ME: No, it's not a small argument. It's part of a massive issue I've had with you for over a decade now that I've tried to sit down and talk to you about but you refuse to engage me regarding it.
[12:38:37 PM] UNCLE: Anyway, I love you! :heart::heart::heart::kissing_heart::kissing_heart::kissing_heart:
[12:38:38 PM] ME: And it slowly eats away at any respect I have for you.
[12:39:00 PM] UNCLE: Ok, that’s your choice. I’ll keep you two up to date on what develops this week. I love you too [SISTER]!!!! :heart::heart::heart::kissing_heart::kissing_heart::kissing_heart:
At this point I messeaged him privately and said show me where I challenged you. Take a screenshot of it and show me because I read back and I don't see it. So he screenshots THAT and sends it to our chat.
[Photo]
[12:45:34 PM] ME: Yeah? Wrong screenshot - I asked for the one where I "challenged you."
[12:47:18 PM] UNCLE: Since you wanted to include [SISTER] in this I just pasted the message you sent me privately. I wanted [SISTER] included.
[12:46:56 PM] ME: I don't give a fuck if [SISTER] sees what I say to you or not. I asked you to show me where I challenged you.
[12:47:42 PM] UNCLE: I’m not the evidence gatherer that you are.
[12:47:15 PM] ME: I don't even know what that means. There's no "evidence." I don't live in this world where you're constantly trying to "win" at something, [UNCLE]. I'm asking you to show me where I challenged you.
[12:48:23 PM] UNCLE: I don’t have much more time for this so I’m not going back to analyze this.
[12:47:57 PM] ME: So you literally can't answer me. You accuse me of something and then can't back it up It takes 10 seconds. You told me to read back. So I did. I didn't see a point in the conversation where I challenged you. So I privately asked you to show me.
[12:49:05 PM] UNCLE: BTW I’m not on any pain killers except for ibuprofen. I will never take opioids.
[12:48:36 PM] ME: Great.
[12:49:28 PM] UNCLE: Plus theirs no pain. Thanks for your concern.
[12:49:05 PM] ME: Great. Okay, where did I challenge you? You can obviously screenshot things - take a picture of the part that set you off down this path of needed to defend yourself.
[12:51:49 PM] UNCLE: Also [DOCTOR] practice is [DERMATOLOGIST] Google that. Obviously google isn’t fail proof since their not picking up his name in his website, google, Facebook etc.
[12:51:41 PM] ME: Do I really need to keep asking you to show me where you became so offended?
[12:53:02 PM] UNCLE: There is not a certain screen shot. It is the progress of this conversation. ANYWAY CAN WE JUST DROP THIS???????????
[12:53:00 PM] ME: No, you told me to go back. You specifically said, and I quote, " It all started because you challenged my first several texts on this. Go back and look." No, we can't.
[12:53:43 PM] UNCLE: PLEASE?!?!?!?
[12:53:15 PM] ME: Absolutely not.
[12:54:24 PM] UNCLE: Ok, then it’s your thing. Have fun with it all day.
[12:54:01 PM] ME: It's about damn time you fucking respect me, [UNCLE]. I'm 30 years old. I'm a working industry professional. I'm sick and tired of you treating me like I'm a teenager, and I'm even more sick and tired of you hearing everything I say in some fictional sort of way that is completely the opposite of my personality type and lifestyle.
[12:54:45 PM] UNCLE: I’M DONE.
[12:54:27 PM] ME: I expect so much better of someone your age, [UNCLE], and someone with your experience. You can't even back up your accusation.
And I've had people tell me time and time again when I cry to them about how we communicate and beg other people for insight, for wisdom on HOW to communicate with you that I need to stand up for myself and stop being quiet. I'm not being quiet anymore. I did not challenge you.
[12:57:25 PM] UNCLE: [Photo]
This was a photo of him saying he's proud of me and loves me so super much and will always fight for me
[12:57:29 PM] ME: That's not your first several texts? You started this way earlier.
[12:58:11 PM] UNCLE: [Photo]
This was a photo of him saying Anyway, I love you! and Ok, that's your choice. I'll keep you up to date on what develops this week.
[12:57:45 PM] ME: You don't even know what you're upset about.
[12:59:12 PM] UNCLE: Anyway, have a great rest of your day. I’m going outside it’s absolutely beautiful out there.
[12:58:43 PM] ME: You told me to go back and read before that part in the conversation.
[12:59:38 PM] UNCLE: Talk to you all later. :heart::kissing_heart::heart::kissing_heart:
[12:59:26 PM] ME: You realize it's painfully obvious what's happening, right? You blew up over something that wasn't a situation in the first place and now you're trying to act like nothing is wrong and you didn't have a meltdown over nothing. One of two things are going to happen: You're going to be forced into communicating correctly with me, on your terms AND my terms, not one or the other, like two functioning adults, or we're going to stop speaking because your pride is more important than your family.
Help. Please help me.

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How do you find out about these games? (Friend of a friend of a friend?) Are they mostly hosted in Manhattan or within the other boroughs and NJ as well?	I've been around the games for awhile, and through the loop I've discovered more games. I started out when Manhattan would have places with 14 cash games pumping before the big shooting then they really cracked down on it.
Any casino tournament players in this?	Casino players love them because it's a lot more action and talent pool is very slim. Yes there are tournaments aswell, all sorts
What's your style? New age aggressive online type or old school mathematical? I work in Information Security and part of my work is social engineering gigs where I even worked with Law Enforcement to understand body language. Have you used something like that to your advantage? Most n00bs try to look for microexpressions when it's usually the feet and torso that are sure tells. So for huge winnings, how do you stash it away? Deposits of less than $10k in different accounts? What's your educational background and before you decided to make this your living, what was your work profile? Did you start of at casinos or was it always clubs?	My style is and has always been tight aggressive. I'm very selective with my hands, everything has to go into consideration. Micro expressions are good of you pick it up and you're right about the 'happy feet' and torso. There are many many tells to pick up on in addition to timing and betting patterns and tilt factor. All those things give away valuable information. Figuring out what to do with the money is always a good problem to have and im business/street savy so I find options. I went to Baruch University and ran my first game in the school lol. We actually made the papers. I dropped out to open a clothing boutique (investment came from poker) It was always clubs and casinos were secondary but still profitable.
I'm reading this while in class at Baruch, I remember people used to play in the 3rd floor game room, but they seemed too good so I never got involved.	Yep gameroom .. Where it all began. We had official tables there and everything!
What do you mean by happy feet/ torso? how can you see this at the table or casino?	You can't see happy feet in most cases. Torso movement you can pick up by the shirt moving, it also depends on how close you are to the villain.
Hey, thanks for the AMA, just a few questions. Do you still consider it gambling or has it become another form of employment? Also what's your average income? Does it frighten you that you may lose a lot of money due to pure chance? Biggest win/loss? What are your thoughts on online poker? If given the opportunity would you choose another job?	I havent considered it gambling since i got a real grasp of the game. I don't gamble. Never played a table game, scratch off. I won't even play lotto. All my friends are degenerates so I know the deal. My biggest win was 56k but I was being staked so gave away 60%. Biggest loss is 2k. Online poker is free money if you know what you're doing. A bunch of my close friends moved to Canada just to be able to play, 4 guys combined bankroll over 2 mill. I've gone too far in poker to walk away from it. It's like 2nd nature, most places would rather me not play because I'm a tightass or parasite in their eyes lol.
What was the buy-in on the stake game?	I usually play 2/5 or 5/5 and sit down with a nickel ($500) Sometimes there are really good 1/3 games and I sit with 300.
being staked. Sorry - what does that mean?	Yea it's when someone buys you into the game and get a % of the profits but covers the loss entirely in the event of a loss. I only let people stake me in bigger games I wouldn't normally play with my own money.
Knowing the games like you do, what is the lowest bankroll you'd consider having to sit at a $2/5 table?	I go with the 20/25 buy-ins rule because I've went on bad runs before and I would rather have the insurance. So you if buyin for 300 to sit comfortably I want to have at least 6k to work with. Most people dont follow any kind of bankroll management and go broke over and over again.
What happens if you lose all the money? I understand they get nothing back but is that really what happens or do you have to pay a little back to them as a show of goodwill? Or do they just bust you kneecaps and call it even?	Nope lol, stop watching Sopranos .. They take the hit as a bad investment. So far im up with all my backers
You have never had to pay makeup?	Nope.
How about ARod? I've heard he's been to these underground spots on occasion.	I was at the club when he was playing. You would be surprised how many celebrities I met at games. I have met more in clubs than in casinos.
What is the culture of these games like, or does it vary wildly? I saw some elderly Jews in your pictures - is that typical, or are there businessmen, or mostly gambling types? Do women play? Do you often play against the same people or does it cycle out fairly regularly? If I WERE to, ahem, get involved in these games, how what would I want to look for in a "good" room vs. a "bad" room, if there are such categories? I guess, what makes you prefer one place over another?	They vary very wildly. Most places are a mixed crowd especially since nyc is a big melting pot. There are also games that are all albanian or asian etc.. One of the biggest factors in game selection is the rake/chop. There are some games that flat out rake 10% with no cap.they do this because they give out credit and because they are greedy. A good realistic rake for a city 1/2 or 2/5 is 10% with a $15 cap. Also you want to play against action players not tight ass grinders.
How many games are typically going on (say, in Manhattan alone) a weeknight vs. a weekend? It sounds like you've been around a while - do you have any sense of roughly how many people in the NY area are doing what you do, i.e. making living off these games? Dozens? Hundreds? More?	At any given time from 8pm to 4am there are dozens of live cash games going on. Weekends most places open up earlier than weekdays because of the usual working clientele.
How would you compare the average skill level? For example, if you play online what stakes would you compare these games to?	The skill level now is tougher than it was 5 years ago. When ESPN had poker on all the time it was literally free money if you knew anything. Now bad players lost tons of money and tightened up, still plenty of money to go around if you know where to look.
	The most common games especially in the city are 1/2NL and 2/5NL .. Although the past year or so Omaha and rotation have been gaining momentum because it's so much more action.
Instead of putting up with 10% $15 cap rake, why don't you just take the bus/train/drive to AC and play at the Borgota?	I go to ac and Parx frequently but you CANNOT compare the action in clubs vs. casinos
Meaning the action in casino's is more? Right? So why would you not want to play in them?	The action in clubs is more.
Borgata or Parx: which do you prefer, and which has the better action for a moderate-skilled 1/2 player? Also, Casino 1/2 PLO; is the preflop action as heavy as it's rumored to be? I've heard that at Borgata, typical preflop PLO pot is $70.	I get to Parx in a hour, borgata in 2. I would go to Borgata for the weekend and give it 3 solid sessions. Borgata has more talent but there's still money for the taking in 1/2. The 2/5 in Parx is juicy if you go at the right time. Well yea in a action packed game it's going to be potted preflop. Te underground games it gets repotted often, W I L D.
I would think you have more experienced players in clubs, where you need to know people to even be allowed in the game, than the casino, where someone can wonder over from the slots.	Word spreads quick especially with free rolls and stuff so people brings friends and friends of friends.
So how is Teddy KGB doing these days?	Prick still owes me 2 dimes.
I see you smoke reefer. Is drug use something you see often? Are you willing to share if that answer is yes?	Yes and yes I guess.. It goes w the territory, there used to be games that would spark up the entire table nonstop.
How much money have you made?	I don't even want to know how much I'm up lifetime because i spent so much money doing crazy stuff. I used to not keep track but I average 2k a week for 3 1/2 nights work, cash obviously. I should've been saving but for 5 years I was making more because of action and more bad players. Also, going around the world, crazy shopping and living life.
How are you making so much from 1/2 a week? is bluffing a big part of your game? I still dont know how to incorporate it into the 1/2 cash games since most people are willing to call you light.	I play 1/2s in Brooklyn. It's a younger crowd and they're either overplaying or scared money.
Do you launder your money at all?	Only when I forget to take it out of my pockets.
You mentioned action at the clubs is way looser than that in casinos. What are we talking about here? Are there a lot of LAGs? Loose passive? How do you find out about the games? Are they open to anyone, or do you need an invitation or someone in the know to bring you in? How are you supposed to overcome a 10% uncapped rake? You need a huge edge over the table to make that work. Is the play that bad?	Loose passive for the most part, business men that get out of work and want to fool around before going home. They won't even play, just fish. They are open if someone brings you in and vouches for you.
Where's the advice? We're all ears..	I was bluffing.
Let's say I wanted to host games. First, is there money in it? And how does the house get paid? How much would the house make from a typical game you go to? What does the house provide? Just a secure location and a dealer?	Yes and waitress/massage girl. You can rake a % from every pot. You can also do a tournament with a fee say $100+$15 for the house. They make a fee thousand a night before expenses. Big games make alot.
What would the typical % per pot be?	5% with a cap is optimal for you so you won't affect the game much and still make a few.
Ever bang Famke Janssen?	No but I wouldn't mind owing her money and have her come try to collect.
So you were setup by the house and not the players? Did they deal from the bottom or something? What hand did you lose with when you were 'set up'?	I think I flopped a straight and he rivered a boat. He had a loaded deck, did a fake shuffle and ..
How could you tell you were being setup?	1st hand new deck, and house player beats cash player on the river suckout.
Damnnn... doesnt the deck get cut after every shuffle before the deal? I dunno the typical underground shuffling/dealing routines so I really am curious. If they can fake a shuffle they can fake a cut too eh. Although; I'm assuming there aren't permanent dealers unlike what you'd find in a casino.	When a new dealer comes in every 30minutes they have a deck. They're supposed to fan it out and show the players, sometimes they'll just wash or shuffle to speed things up.
While it looks suspicious I don't think that's enough info to conclude that the hand was rigged. I've seen suck outs like that in casinos yet nobody ever would make that conclusion but because it's an underground game suck out on the river is a set up? Aren't you jumping into conclusions too early? Or did you actually see more suspicious hands which added up to the whole game looking suspicious?	I've taken nasty beats as well. In Vegas I lost w quads twice in one night (no BBJ) it just didn't add up, i felt a very bad vibe and I took a shot and approached the guy. He could've denied and taken his stand but he folded instead.
Could you talk about the 1998 movie "Rounders," and how realistic/not realistic the movie was?	Surprisingly realistic to some degree.
Was it really based on norm macdonald?	Does a zebra have spots?
Some might.. still doesn't answer the question.	I'm not aware of any Norm McDonald connection.
Thanks for doing this AMA. What do you think the biggest weakness in your game is? Do you ever pick up on live tells? I havent really been able to spot any and wonder if there is anything to it. Do you love the rounding life? Regret it?	My biggest weakness is not playing more often. I do well so I only play 3/4 times a week because of gf, family, business ventures and life. Also I usually cash out once I triple up. I figure if I book a win for a thousand im satisfied, sometime I should stay of game is juicy. I pickup new tells every session. My people reading skills are definitely up to par. The money is good but the lifestyle around it is crazy .. The late night hours and characters involved. I don't regret it for a second, poker has been supporting me for a long time and has given me a flexible schedule to do other things on the side like go on reddit lol.
Thanks for the response! The one pattern I have noticed is if I play 4-5 days in a week my level of play seems to go down. Then if a take a break for a few days I always come back to stronger. I guess regarding tells there really are no global signs and its just very person specific?	Caros book of tells.. Use that as your foundation
Hey man, thanks for the AMA. Enjoyed reading it so far and have a few questions. Do you still enjoy playing? Is it more work now, or a bit of both? I ask as you mentioned you don't play too much. What's the biggest misconception, or thing that people get totally wrong about what you do? A lot of people here / on Reddit will ask about playing like a pro, but only for use in their house playing against friends and family. Would there be any more general advice you'd give to people in this situation about which aspects of their game to aim to improve? Cheers.	More work now .. People that dont know me and they don't know the grind just think I gamble it up trying to get lucky. I sit and wait then keep sitting and waiting and think and analyze players. Lot of information gets processed I before I even get involved. It takes me at least an hour or so to get a feel for the game. Be aggressive!
I just started playing poker, doing usually 6 table micros on LockPoker or so, and coming out for the most part winning. I have the hardest time with implied odds though, and using them accurately to calc EV and such. Can you explain them a little to me? Its just not second nature to me yet. I played a .5/1 live cash game last night and busted, it sucked but I guess its fine, last time I went I came out hundreds up, How do you deal with the bad beats? I have read mostly every 'good' poker book, but what one would you suggest I re-read? If you are playing in underground rooms, do you skip (some/all) taxes? Name on 2+2?	I just got back an hour ago from a long night, I'm sorry I don't want to type novels about ev or implied odds (google it) .. I deal with bad beats very well. I do NOT get emotional, if it's normal bad beat i simply play as if nothing happened. I'll actually get more action from the table because they assume I'm steaming. If its a huge monster bad beat I either cash out or take a trees timeout, that does the trick. No clue about the book, I've read and analyzed them all and you can extract valuable info from even the worst one, it's all about the experience on the table on my eyes. I have a side business for tax purposes.
What is the business?	I import merchandise and sell on amazon/ebay and to retailers
How old are you? How did you start finding these games? How long have you been playing poker?	27, I was 18 when I first discovered what goes on behind shady looking doors.
Talk etiquette. Is everyone friends? If not, are you friendly with these strangers, or is it all business? Do you shake hands, joke around, etc, or sit down, play and leave?	Very friendly usually.
I see a big jewish community, as a palestinian will i get harrased if i go to one of these clubs?	Not at all. Somehow everyone blends well in poker games. I know a lot of palestinians that play on the regular.
What would be the best way for a beginner to improve their game? Any specific books that you would recommend?	Super system thoroughly to get your brain thinking about it. There are plenty of very good forums online (2plus2). Plenty of resources out there.
How much time do you put in studying the game away from the tables? I've always heard that for every 4 hours you play, you should spend 1 hour studying (reviewing notes, reading the books, 2+2, etc). Is that an accurate ratio?	I've read all the books and go on forums all the time. I don't really have a ratio
How much do you rely on math in your play? I have a strong math/statistics background, I just finished reading Mathematics of Poker by Chen and Ankenman. It covered basic probability, bayesian probability, game theory, and heuristics for quick calculations. Do you find yourself using this stuff or is your play more intuitive?	My play is more intuitive.
How much do you usually go in the room with and how much do you take out?	Since every place knows me and I'm not stupid I dont walk in with cash just in case spmething goes down. If I lose I just take care of it after the game or day after. I usually have 3 bullets of 500 each. That's for an average 2/5 or 5/5 to sit down comfortably.
Do you give lessons? If so how much?	I gave pointers to friends and have helped people bring their skill level up. Me and some friends were thinking of marketing private poker lessons but im too lazy. If you're close by I wouldn't mind helping you, what's your offer?
Thanks for your input, gambling is not allowed in this sense in iceland so there is no culture for that, from as neutral or personal of a standpoint that you can manage, do you think gambling in this sense is good for a society/community or does it make t worse?	I don't know about society but I'm glad poker is around.
My question is how deep is Chinatown? I have heard there is gambling behind every Canal Street store creating almost a second level. Can you confirm and describe any of the places you have been in Chinatown?	That was not so recent. I'm sure i could find games in c town but they all speak chinese and I definitely don't trust that.
Do you have alligator blood? Also how does one find these games?	You gotta be in the loop and I'm not sure about the blood, gotta ask my primary care physician to be sure.
So presumably a lot of guys are making their living money this way? Where does the money come from? How do rubes get into the game (so that they can give you their money)?	Actually most people at these games come to gamble and hangout.
What's your cover story? Do you work a day job to keep up appearances, or do you just try not to live too extravagantly and draw too much attention? Does your girlfriend/family know this is what you do?	Yes they know what I do and I do daytime work as well. I definitely calmed down compared to how I used to live.
Is dealing at things like these done how movies depict it or how you would at a house game, with the "dealer" role actually moving with the button? Or is there a dedicated dealer for each game? Curiosity as a casino dealer.	Same as a casino dealer.
Do you ever splash the pot?	No but it's on my bucket list.
Biggest pot you were involved in? Win it?	38k pot .. Won 56k that session but I was being staked so only kept 40% .. Still booked a monster win so couldn't complain.
Wow awesome, do you look up to any pros? would you play HU with any of them if you had the br?	My style is more for a full table. I know a bunch pros personally and I invite them to games when they are in town. I fly to vegas on the regular just don't want to move there because I have too much stuff going on here.
Tips on finding these games? if i live in a different state.	Ask around? I can smell a game and I can pick out a poker player out of a crowd .. I'm a sick child.
What was your revelation in the game? I mean what insight really opened up your game and made you a good player instead of an average player and seperated you from the mass?	I started out dealing before playing for real. After a few months I noticed that players are making plenty of mistakes I could make them pay for. I slowly started grinding and found my style and it's been working for me for a long time. It's just a grind, you wait for your prime opportunity then you maximize and wait again.
Most profitable exploit?	Reraising a tilted aggressor with a set if you know he hit anything good.
Lol. step one. flop set. step two... make sure villian has something good and is on tilt. step 3.. raise. Yes, huge exploit you discovered there.	Maybe you can give me a good example and I'll put it into use lol.
What's your best advice on becoming better in general at poker?	Absorb as much information as possible and actually apply it! Find your leaks and seal them
Hi thanks for doing this. 2 questions. How did you fund your initial bank roll? What is a good way to work on reading people?	I organized a house game and raked a little bit and went from there. Caros book of tells and just start watching people. Look at the flop and your hole cards last, first watch players and pickup info to use. You'll get used to it after awhile.
How good are you at online poker?	Definitely rusty havent played for real in years.
What do you generally buy in with for a 5/5 NL?	I usually buy in whatever the average stack is. If the biggest chip stack is a fish then I'll buyin for the max. $500 is the usual amount early in the night/game.
Is there anything you do to maintain your health? Sitting for hours while eating junk food and stressing over hands must take a toll on your body.	I don't eat junk food and I try not to stress. I workout 5 days a week and play plenty of sports.
Is it "card-shark" or "card-sharp"?	Shark.
How to you keep from going on tilt after losing a massive all in 80/20 ?	I'm used to the bad beats. It's part of the game man.
How did you build your initial bankroll?	I started out running a house game without any intention of playing for a income and once the game died out and I had about $800 and didn't look back m. Never went broke either, I'm owed plenty though.
You mentionned robberies/raids and it never involving the players , im wondering is your money somehow ( insured ) even in the case of a robbery by the hosts ?	99% of the time you wont get your money back, that why I dont walk in with cash. There has been cases where the house gives players money back out of their own pocket but usually people take advantage and lie about the amounts lost.
Do you play on Merge?	I don't know what that is. I don't play online since they closed main sites I down years ago.
Ah, yeah just the network that US players use now. Was up in Canada last week playing on my dad's Pokerstars account. Goddam do I miss that shit.	It'll be back.
Let's hope! :) Anyways in regards to your thread: what are some of the bigger names you've played with in these underground games?	Players or celebrities?
Players.	Matusow, jamie gold, Ivey for 5 minutes. Lots of Internet pros, sry I'm tired can't think straight lol.
When you play can you calculate in your head the number of outs, pot/implied odds and EV? I can roughly calculate the number of outs in certain hands and maybe pot odds, but it's still gets my head spinning. It boggles my mind that people can do that much number crunching in their heads every hand they are in, so I wonder if serious players actually do it?	I ballpark it.
Is your thinking along the lines of "I have X many cards to make my hand, if I call $X I can win $X" and make your decision on that? That's about as far as I am right now with my thinking. For example, if I'm facing a call and I need one card to make a flush and say I need to call $3 to make $30, I will usually make the call. Is that proper thinking?	Give or take .. I do all the equations in my heads during the actions while trying to read players and order a drink from waitress as I smoke a cigarette
As someone who lives an hour from AC, I can confirm that Asians love to gamble.	Because they can't drive properly on the way there?
Do you ever plan on "retiring". If so, what will you?	Sure why not.
I went to the casino last weekend for the first time. I went into the poker room and sat down at a 1-1 table with $60. As soon as I sat down I completely forgot how to play. I have been playing since I was like 8. I just got so nervous for some reason. Did that ever happen to you? Have you ever gotten so nervous you completely forget what you're doing?	No.
Why do you think super system is relevant to the current hold em game? Frankly, why do you think 5/5 live poker is interesting enough for an AMA?	I don't know.
Word met up? i have a few friends in bk.	Send me a pm.
Does the place get shaked down by the mob?	A few games pay for 'protection'
What is the best advice you can give to a player suffering consecutive losses? I always felt I was decent at the game, but my record lately doesn't seem to agree with me.	Take a break and analyze your game. Maybe the stakes aren't right maybe your game selection is off.
What is your current bankroll?	About 55k.
At what point will you move to 5/10? (i'm assuming these clubs run 1000NL, right?)	I play 5/10 if a friend refers a juicy soft game to me.
The Sands casino in Bethlehem, PA has real juicy 5/10 action. $1500 max.	I never had a chance to go. I'm going to check it out this coming weekend.
I'm curious about this.. I would never expect big faces in an underground scene especially since they probably know plenty of ("home") games. Why take a risk (seems like a small risk from what OP has been saying) when they can just play legit.	Action and credit and comfort of it. Trees alcohol strippers whatever the players want basically.
You should crosspost this to /poker	How can I do that? I'll give u poker advice in return.
I hope your not smoking them dutches also where in ny im in ny i want to play	Bk all day.
Some horse/backer agreements will have a make-up or cake stipulation. The losses are originally eaten by the backer, but then a percentage of future wins goes towards paying back a percentage of the previous losses.	True.
SPOILERS! I'm only on Season 2 :(	He misses the gutshots :/
Came here to ask about robberies/raids.	Go on.

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Please bring back WLTV! Just one episode a week? A month? A year?	As I said in another comment, the early seeds of a comeback are in motion ;)
Yes! WLTV was one of my, and my wife's, favorite shows. We laughed and learned a lot; it doesn't get better than that.	THAT ...means the world to me
Hey Gary, I was wondering what your thoughts are on how to deal with perpetually negative people / haters as a small business on social media.	I tend to be in the minority in this POV on haters. 1. I'm very self aware of myself and here social media is at this point, and so I respect my personal haters as well as people who hate on SM in general.
Should you engage them, and how? Should you correct those who spread factual inaccuracies? Or should you just ignore them altogether? What happens when they keep at it?	When I launched Wine Library in 96, there were tons who didn't think there was a future for ecommerce in 99 (even worse after the crash). For every amazon at that point there were thousands of Shmamazons, but for me it was obvious where things were going, so at the end of the day I engage because I respect. But I carry on because I have belief in where things are going.
Would you rather fight 100 duck-sized horses or one horse-sized duck?	One horse sized duck and here is why. I actually believe that I could lose to a horse-sized duck and that excites me. I tend to enjoy the thrill of the hunt and the climb. It's why I'm a bigger Jets fan than a Yankees fan. The easy victory is boring and there is no doubt in my mind that I could dominate 100 horses the sizes of ducks. That said I sit here completely in fear in not knowing the true outcome of the horse-sized duck. That's how I live.
This is why I'm enjoying being a Man United fan this season. I always have been but this season we're no where near the domination of the past. That's where the fun begins..!	Agree!
Hey Gary, what tips do you have for a young analytics enthusiast who's looking to get a job in the technology industry? Follow up, are you hiring? Thanks!	Email me: [email protected].
	And yes. :)
I appreciate you putting this out there.	)
What was your FIRST investment you've ever made?	FIRST: Twitter.
What was your WORST investment you've ever made?	WORST: I don't feel comfortable really saying that because there are real people behind those companies (but there is more than one!)
Would you say Twitter is also your BEST investment? Or is there another one? P.S. Really loving JJJRH!	Tumblr was big as was WildFire
Love your stuff. Situation: You've got 15 seconds to tell a person something that will change their life forever. What do you say?	Make every decision based on your last years of life instead of your next 10
I've always been inspired by your work ethic (and I try to match your level of passion with what I do). On the flip side, how do you balance work/family/life and avoid things like burnout?	The irony of this answer is palpable since I'm sitting here with employees doing this right now :)
	The balance is found in extremism. Working monday-friday 8am-11pm, coming home and NOT working on the computer, and then being ALL IN on the weekend. Also upping my vacation time from 2 weeks to 6 weeks this year.
When do you think you may buy the Jets? I want to see a Superbowl once in my lifetime. Hurry Up.	2039.
I'll be 62! ugh.	Ill be 64.
How did you get your first client for VaynerMedia?	The NY JETS came to sell me a SkyBox to Wine Library a few weeks before AJ and I started VM and by the time the meeting was over in an Hour, they were VM's 1st client :)
	BOOM!
Gary, I'm a junior at Ohio University, and I really dig what you've got going on at Vaynermedia. What should I be doing to prepare to apply with you guys after graduation, and how do you get so much young talent on your team? Also, I turned 21 a couple months ago and am looking to grow my wine palette. Suggestions?	I think the #1 thing you can be doing is consuming a good balance of the kind of content that comes out of AdAge, Tech Meme, and All Things D (or whatever the latest thing Kara Swisher is doing is called).
	I would also pay close attention to the people working for VM, and get a handle on the culture. Culture is big with us :)
Hi, Gary! Thanks for doing this AMA! Also thank you for the recent interviews with Marie Forleo and Pat Flynn, I guess I will be getting a copy of Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook soon :)	Twitter.com/search.
I've got a question for you. Let's say I am starting a new company and just starting to get social on all of those platforms (FB Twitter, Pinterest, G+). No followers, no one knows me.	Searching the topics and keywords that your potential customers would be talking about and listening. Then start providing value to those people by throwing "jabs" - that in turn will let you use that right hook.
What would be your Number 1 suggestion to make it work and to get loads of followers and fans on Social networks?	Listen first and provide value.
Hey Gary, As a current college student looking to get into the entrepeneur business, I was wondering what your perspective on college areas of study is. I obviously have some special interests and hobbies but Im having trouble deciding what kind of business I want to run. Im majoring in business/marketing as of right now but Im still taking prerequisite courses that cover various subjects. However, I don't see the point in delaying my business ideas. Do you have any advice for me?	You're speaking to an F student that thinks the american education system for entrepreneurs is so broken it makes me vomit in my mouth.
	That is my answer.
Who are your role models?	My parents - Period!
Hi Gary, thanks for doing AMA. Out of all the Social Media Platforms, who would you say is the weakest and why?	I would say Google+ but only because people try to use it as a social network when I think it really is a social API. People haven't figured out how to create native content for Google+ just yet.
Hey Gary! You obviously know and talk about wine all the time. Care to name a few beers you particularly enjoy? Thanks!	I am not super knowledgable about Beer but I love Lambics and I adore Russian River brewery
Gary, What are in your opinion the best 5 cities that are dominating the internet business in the USA? And in the world?	SF 2. NYC 3. Very excited about whats happening in LA 4. Huge fan of Austin, TX 5. Focusing on small marketing like Washington D.C, boston, Columbus, OH.
	From a world perspective I think the Nordics are interesting, obviously Asia and New Zealand is sneaky.
How would you sell 'social media management' (managing their social media platforms) to small businesses?	By articulating what the value of it is and than more importantly if I noticed they didnt get it, I would move on instead of forcing the issue.
1.) Is Mott nearby to link things up for the AMA today?	No mott :)
2.) I love doing "show and tell" but don't really know how to monetize that. Don't care about making a killing but it'd be great to make a living. Tips?	Expand on what you mean by show and tell, because I really want to give you an answer!
I've put a few things on a blog I started to highlight the best things I've found but my friends have always remarked that when I find something I'm really interested in, I can sell it to anyone because I truly believe in it.	So I was heavily impacted by waxy.org, and the work of Jason Kottke Links back in the day, and today by Jason Hirschhorn's email list. Like I say often: Become a media company. Start a site where you can build a following and monetize on ad sales!
GV, is this your first time on Reddit? If not, what other subreddits do you enjoy?	First time doing an AMA! I enjoy reddit, but I don't really consume content.
Fan from wine library tv days... You really helped me get into wine and now I'm a certified somm!	I usually sleep between 6-7 hours (which is a lot more than people usually think) - but when you work as hard as I do during the day you are very tired when you get home.
You are always busting your ass. Work work work. How much do you usually sleep? And do you ever just sit and get lost in netflix for an afternoon?	And actually no - the lack of movies I have watched over the years would hurt your feelings.
What was your biggest challenge starting out Gary?	Finding the right way to get along with my dad. Family businesses are tough and finding the right balance to make that relationship work was the biggest challenge.
Which of your books was the hardest to write?	JJJRH because of the case studies and the homework that came a long with it.
	I hate homework
What advice would you give to a 24 year old with $180k of private student loan debt, and a full time job that only pays a little more than $30k/year?	The real answer to this is to take a step back and audit yourself with the best self-awareness you can bring to the table.
	The natural thing is to pay it off. I think the thing to do is to take a year or two off of "life" and invest it in paying down that debt.
	What I mean by that is go find the mentor you most want to be like, and find a way to work for free if necessary. My intuition is that by doing so, you'll put yourself in the best possible position to look at a 6-figure within the next half decade.
Hi Gary, Reading JJJRH and loving it, definitely worth buying for anyone who's thinking about it. I struggle with procrastination, any advice that would help me stay motivated or focused? David.	My advice is to not worry about it, because I'm a serious procrastinator. Focus on your strengths, not your weaknesses.
Have any of the companies that you used in your book as bad examples of how to use Social Media contacted you at VaynerMedia to try and get better? Any of those small companies you referenced as good send any thank yous?	No.
	But Shakespeare Pizza has said thank you and Sphero.
Gary, thanks for doing an IAMA. Big fan of your work growing WLTV. Saw that VaynerMedia has invested in a few startups. Are you looking to do anymore angel/venture investing in the coming year? And what is the most exciting tech company you've come across in the last 6-12 months?	VaynerMedia no longer does invest because AJ and I do it individually. I personally am still very active.
	Since I have invested in 10+ I'd rather not pick amongst my children, but anything I put my money behind, I'm excited about.
Currently reading JJJRH after seeing you in London on Thursday. What advice do you have for connecting B2B over social instead of B2C ?	Linkedin facebook targeting using twitter to find the decision maker at a B2B ( because behind every B is a C )
Gary, how do you keep your energy level up? How do you avoid feeling burn out?	Gratitude
Gary, Loved your book, Crush It! I'm looking forward to Jab,Jab,Jab, Right Hook. Will it be available on audio? Or, is it not that kind of book?	April for audiobook!
Gary, I am an expert in my area in a particular niche of real estate investing. I have started a consulting biz and scaling online. Problem is, no one knows who I am outside of my city. How should I move forward creating credibility / social proof? What does it take for someone to get to know, like, and trust me online to hire me as a consultant?	Daily, relentless, quality content
	You need to be blogging, putting out video, podcasts, creating content across all the social networks. Basically look at what I've been doing for the last few years and do your best to emulate the approach.
This week you've been in Paris and London amongst a ton of other places. Did you finally get some sleep?	YES! last night! THANK YOU...its been intense
Gary--fan of your for years now. I have bought JJJRH and Crush It as pre-releases. Quick behind-the-scenes sort of question: are there any hidden messages, or jokes in either of these books you could share?	GREAT question.
	There was one for JJJRH about the Patriots but I had to take it out at the last second because it involved Aaron Hernandez and it just would have been so tasteless after what happened
Thanks for taking the time Gary. How much time and resources go into the discovery process before you sign on a new client to VaynerMedia? What, for you, makes a good client vs a pass?	The answer can vary. Sometimes it's on complete intuition.
	What makes a good client, to me, is one that signed on for the strategy as well as the execution, not just the end product.
Hey Gary, what are your thoughts on native Facebook video vs. a native image that links out to a YouTube vid? Facebook video doesn't let you do custom thumbnail, so, no branding and no call to action available on the main image.	I'm a bigger fan of the native image that links out to the youtube video. I think that viral loops and actual views matter inside youtube.
Thank you. I assumed that native FB video contributes to higher EdgeRank, but will stick with your advice.	U maybe right, its just my POV right this minute, remember the FB algorithm changes
Gary, We all make mistakes and it's important we learn from them - what's one you made and the lesson learned?	Early on in 2001 at Wine Library I brought in my best friend brandon and made him my right hand man. For the entire first year I barely let him do anything. To brandon's credit we had an awesome conversation and I've never looked back on my delegation skills.
What do you see are the keys to the Jets beating the Panthers?	We need the Defensive Libe ( Mo, Snacks, Coples and Sheldon) to have a huge game and we need one Special Teams play and alucky bounce or even 2!
Hi Gary, what social media do you think is still much under the radar and will have the highest/fastest growth in 2014? Thanks!	SnapChat.
	I truly think people are underestimating it
Hey GV! Good to see you one here. First off- thanks for all the support and conversations over the years. My q- Are there any sort of business trend 'wild cards' you have your eye on? Maybe not something you are overly focused on, but on your radar none the less?	Robotics.
Could you send me a signed post card?	PM me your address!
P.S.: Really love your work dude. And your energy!	And the answer to your question is: Legacy.
Edit: Forgot to ask you something. I know you will love this. What's the ROI of social media? :D.	)
1) How was your experience in London?	Amazing - maybe my favorite book signing of the trip so far.
2) Next industry you'll jump into?(Wine Retail, Advertising, now?)	Formal venture capital.
3) 2-3 people who you think have excellent potential/future but aren't known yet?(In any space, just brilliant people)	Truth is those people lie in the halls of VaynerMedia and there is probably 11-12 of them and wouldn't be appropriate for me to name them.
Hi Gary, I have been a lurker on Reddit for 2 years and just created this account just to tell you you're awesome!! I saw you live at the Eric Worre event last week in Vegas and was blown away by your awesome tell-it-as-it-is attitude.	I think with the way you're asking this the answer is NO.
If I did have a question it would be regarding starting a Facebook page for a new business. Would you ever recommend buying a few thousand Facebook likes to start to give the page a better "appearance" before starting a campaign to drive target customers to the page?	But I DO recommend that you buy ads on the righthand rail that are pointing people at you in a non-incentiveized way based on nothing but brand equity.By non-incentiveized, I mean like no contests, no giveaways. The followers game is all about QUALITY not quantity.
What do you do to stay motivated? I feel there is so much I want to do but can't bunker down and track down one thing. What would your advice be? Thanks.	For every person it's different. I am aware of the talent I was gifted and had to execute against it. It is just being very self aware and betting on your best strength.
What's your QOTD?	Which Wine are you drinking this XMAS?
QOTD: 2007 Ridge Monte Bello.	BAM!
	1991.
How has being from an immigrant family shaped your views on business?	1000% the biggest impact.
	It taught be to hustle and even more importantly it created a lack of entitlement
Gary, how do you get yourself out of a rut? Any suggestions for the small business owner who finds him/herself in a funk?	Going to a conference outside of the normal stream that I'm in. I find being at a physical conference with others breaks me out of ruts.
Do you think people in small countries like me have the same opportunities to start a successful startup or build great apps/websites than people in U.S. or big countries?	On the flipside, I do believe that you can turn that market size into an advantage, but only a very, very, very select few can do that. Be the big fish in the small pond!
Are you using Atmospheir? If not, why not? If so, why so?	Nope! Not familiar with it.
What's up Gary! I was there at the Vemma Leadership Event where you spoke. You got me so pumped then, and I was able to see some awesome results for about 3 weeks. However, lately I've been really struggling. What advice on consistency, work ethic, or mindset would you give to a rising entrepreneur?	This is a really personal question that requires more knowledge of the person asking. But for me it's just remembering that I only have one life and I want to get as much out of it as possible. Then there is definitely being thankful and realizing how fortunate I am to be who I am living in America and being aware of everything I have.
I've watched WLTV since the snow episode. Now that your a social media advert guy, have you ever felt that you lost touch with your original fan base and show niche? And thank you for educating the world with wine.	Of course I lost touch and it stinks and I am starting to really miss it but in life people evolve and It's just the course my life took.
Hi Gary, thanks for doing this AmA! Love your Jab Jab Jab Right hook strategy. What, in your opinion, is the greatest challenge facing marketers today?	The enormous amount of noise and trying to break through that to reach who you want.
Hey Gary, when's the movie of your life story coming out? :)	I really hope it happens :) 50 years :)
Hi Gary! I'm a chess instructor -- I coach teams and give lessons to several schools and individuals in my community. I've gotten all of my business by word-of-mouth and recommendations, working under my own name for several years. I don't want to just stay local -- I have ideas of how I can help a global audience achieve their competitive chess goals using the web and social media. I feel like I can accomplish my long-term plans by offering products and services through a personal website and connecting directly with people on platforms like Twitter, Facebook, etc. However, I don't know if it would be even better to go about the same things by starting a company; if I do, I don't want my own personal brand (though admittedly small right now) to be lost in the process. What do you recommend? How have you managed to have such a personal impact with your various endeavors, in that customers seem to have close relationships with your businesses and yet they also know who you are and your story?	It's actually really simple. If you actually provide value and execute, it doesn't matter whether it's a personal brand or a business, it's going to win.
How important is it to brand yourself/company before going out there and start promoting your product?s.	Imperative. It is one big jab.
Gary, I'm a marketing undergrad, and I own www.toysoldiermarketing.com . I have many extra-curriculars/professors/friends looking to get me to make a free site for them. Making connections are important, but where do I draw the line?	Think about the balance of what value proposition they can bring you in the future. Draw the line when that balance doesn't make sense anymore.
Oh! And I purchased the domain www.garyvines.com for you, after you were talking about it in that livestream a while back. Hope you like it! Merry Christmas! (You still owe me the $100 bottle of wine btw :P)	My biggest piece of advice is to do it A. for people you think can give you value in return. and B. for people where you wouldn't be hurt if you got nothing in return.
Using your outside perspective, what do you see happening in the music industry?	Access is becoming the value that Musicians will need to Monetize in the future
Thanks for doing this AMA. Saw your interview with Chase Jarvis, you said there are three kinds of people left. What's your advice towards someone (particularly a high school student) who wants to become an entre-employee?	To spend all your time trying to bring value to the entrepreneur of the company that you want to work for.
Gary, My mom surprised me for my birthday. I have been a follower of WLTV and she knows this. She bought me Franzia wine thinking it was a very high end wine. What do you think of this wine?	I adore it Tuna, its a great fun entry level wine.
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What is a "CARE" Marketing Plan? Where can I find out more?	The Thank You Economy - a book I wrote
With all the social media channels out there... do you think it's more effective to market with the 2-3 that you can master or dabble with 20+?	If u can master 20 - do it most cant :) master as many as u can :)
Hi Gary, what is the single most important thing you look for when choosing startups to invest in or advise?	The Jockey ( the founder )
What would you tell (or ask) a startup that has the option of going slower and bootstrapping, versus faster with angel investor or venture capital?	I would tell them to really look within themselves and ask themselves what they value more.
	There are tortoises and there are hares, but the key is to make the decision to not end up being turtle soup or hasenfeffer.
You're an incredibly motivated, hard worker. I'm assuming you've always been. Before you were commercially successful, working long hours trying to grow your family's business, did you know you'd "make it"?	I was extremely successful selling baseball cards as a teenager, so I had huge success.
I feel like if more people (myself included) would shoot for as high as they can, more of them would make it big instead of getting a decent job and coasting by.	The work I did had instant results on my dad's business. The first year I was there, sales exploded, so it was kind of instant gratification.
Thanks for the AMA! I really enjoy your talks, and how unapologetic you are when it comes to attitude. The vulgar language also helps.	Sorry, maybe not a good answer for you :/
Army or Navy?	Air Force
Hey Gary, how do you get investor like you? What's the best way to make that happen? And what do you do for fun? And do you ever come to Silicon Valley. I met you on airtime :)	Getting an angel investor take networking skills and relentless pursuit. I watch the new york jets for fun and yes I come to Silicon valley.
Hi Gary - who was your first business/entrepreneur mentor and why?	Nope - didn't really have one.
Gary-	Prior experience and creating results from it Prior experience and creating results from it Prior experience and creating results from it I am serious its the best u can do!
of all I have read all the books and they are great, keep up the good work.
We are hiring a marketing person for our small business early next year. What are three things we should look for in an ideal marketing candidate?
I'll go on a limb here and say that Blogs will change the world as we know it. First because it makes a lot of people smarter (both readers and writers) but also it gives everyone a voice and a way to solve problem and help others. Do you think I'm too over the top?	I don't think it's too over the top. But it's not just blogs it's information being posted via the internet and on many platforms. Blogs are just a great way for distribution.
What would you tell your 18 year old self today knowing everything you know now?	That's a great question...
	"Move to Silicon Valley, become friends with these guys named Sergey and Larry, and do your best to get a substantial chunk of their company"
try :) Further to the reading of #JJJRH: => should the imagery branded with a footer logo/baseline on every platform (FB + Instagram + Pinterest) or is it Facebook only?	I'm not fully sure yet. I know for Facebook I am a firm believer. At some level yes for the other platforms but haven't tested enough to give a definite answer.
Thanks for all these QandAs Gary, I've been eating up all your keynotes on youtube! Has it been difficult to handle your "fame"? Being as well known as you scares me half to death.	No because it feels very natural to me and I also have triple-z list fame which is the best kind because you get it once in a while and not all the time.
Hi Gary! I enjoyed your book and was one of the first to review it. You say that "marketers ruin everything," so what works today won't work tomorrow. How long do you think it'll be until what you wrote about in JJJRH becomes obsolete?	In 10 yrs there will clearly be diminishing returns. "Obsolete" is tough, I mean radio advertising still "works" to a certain extent.
How can I leverage social media to secure myself a job, in particular a big tech company or perhaps a financial firm? These companies usually have pretty strict application processes but there must be some way around that.	Do the homework on which ones don't have those policies instead of trying to find a workaround for the ones who do.
Gary, Give us your take on the major players in SM in the relevant future... Who will they be, and what types of media will dominate? Thanks for being a pioneer and a hustler!	The truth is I don't know - but what I'm good at is recognizing them when I see them.
Hi Gary, How often do you work on Saturday nights?	From 1998-2012 a lot.
	2013 never ( barley except for book promotion )
Gary - When listening to Pat Flynn and you on the SPI podcast, you briefly mentioned coming from Russia to the USA. Can you elaborate more on what you life in Russia was like and how long you were there?	I came over when I was three so I remember zero. And I mean ZERO.
Gary - have you ever been screwed by someone you trusted in a business deal? If so, how did you handle it?	Yes - anybody with a 20 year career in business has. I handled it the way I handle everything, which is that I looked on the positive side and recognized that it could have cost me a helluva lot more.

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